Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Started by jinzin85 pages

lol 🙄

okay.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i didn't say that flight speed and reflex speed were the same.
But you still get my point sneer

Originally posted by Parmaniac
But you still get my point sneer

Not really... Sorry.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Good luck at course correction while being faster than the light that shows you what will hit you 🙂 in the end it's comics and how do you wanna solve the travelling prob from galaxy to galaxy without simply ignoring it or turning everyone into a teleporter?

Seriously I thought it was clear for all threads that Travelling Speed≠ Fighting Speed.

I don't buy that anyone has FTL fighting speed unless it's clearly stated or the character blitzed someone who is pretty fast himself (the latter still wouldn't garanty it's FTL fighting speed).

true... But I don't think there should be any question to the superiority of a DBZer's fighting speed to most comic characters short of those that DO have FTL standards.

The argument for a DBZ characters speed can be made easily.
Damn, they were bullet timers early in the series.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not really... Sorry.
Maybe I've just misread your post, then simply answer this:

Is Travel Speed = Fighting Speed or not?

Originally posted by jinzin
true... But I don't think there should be any question to the superiority of a DBZer's fighting speed to most comic characters short of those that DO have FTL standards.

The argument for a DBZ characters speed can be made easily.
Damn, they were bullet timers early in the series.

Yeah Radditz was able to catch bullets and he was the weakest villain in the series. (And no I'm not going into that mess of how much the power level indicates of how fast someone is).

Originally posted by jinzin
lol 🙄

okay.

What power level are you able to blow up the moon?
What power level are you able to blow up Pluto?
What power level are you able to blow up Mercury?
What power level are you able to blow up Mars?
What power level are you able to blow up Venus?
What power level are you able to blow up the Earth?
What power level are you able to blow up Neptune?
What power level are you able to blow up etc...

If you start giving me any speculative BS about Freeza or Thanos or any character other than answering theese questions then you are dodging again.

Quantify, damn it. The numbers are meaningless outside of comparing characters. Even then Yajirobe was able to cut off Vegeta's tail. The mighty Ozaru was beaten by acharacter with a power level A hell of a lot lower than his.

I'm pretty sure Roshi or Goku maybe both I can't remember were deflecting machine gun fire early in Dragon Ball.. before all the upgrades started getting underway.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And you prove my point about you not understanding some of the more simple laws of physics.

And that's where the problem starts. You applying real world logic to a comic book.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm pretty sure Roshi or Goku maybe both I can't remember were deflecting machine gun fire early in Dragon Ball.. before all the upgrades started getting underway.
For comedic purposes Bulma whipped out a machine gun and blasted Goku who was unharmed.

This was way back when he was upset about the missing "pillow". Before Roshi had been introduced.

Originally posted by carver9
And that's where the problem starts. You applying real world logic to a comic book.
And that's why you fail because you don't. And only use your own imagination.

I agree that these comedic feats can't be used btw.

Neither low showing nor high.

Originally posted by Creshosk

"Freeza can beat thanos because he's cooler."
"Freeza moves faster because he looks cooler."
"Freeza moves faster because he looks more impressive."

NOT valid.

frieza's movign faster because....the show depicts him as moving faster

he is depicted as moving so fast that the human eye can't even see him during the fights...you merely see the shockwaves generated by the blows

he moves so fast that in a blink of an eye, he has already thrown 10 punches and dodged 10 equally fast punches.

neither thanos, nor wolverine, nor any comic character outside of flash, superman, etc has ever demonstrated that

Originally posted by Creshosk
What power level are you able to blow up the moon?
What power level are you able to blow up Pluto?
What power level are you able to blow up Mercury?
What power level are you able to blow up Mars?
What power level are you able to blow up Venus?
What power level are you able to blow up the Earth?
What power level are you able to blow up Neptune?
What power level are you able to blow up etc...

If you start giving me any speculative BS about Freeza or Thanos or any character other than answering theese questions then you are dodging again.

Quantify, damn it. The numbers are meaningless outside of comparing characters. Even then Yajirobe was able to cut off Vegeta's tail. The mighty Ozaru was beaten by acharacter with a power level A hell of a lot lower than his.

Buncha useless questions that don't address the issue. And you say I'm dodging?

You don't need to know what the required power levels are to blow up X.
We know that characters at certain power levels HAVE blown up X and can multiply from there on an "AT THE LEAST" basis....

Yajirobi did do that yes... Definitely an instance of inconsistency in DBZ, BUT he was using a bladed weapon, something that falls into the exception category regarding most power levels up to the Freiza saga.

What does that have to do with the fact that you can take a feat from Frieza and multiply it by 100x "AT THE LEAST"?

Originally posted by Creshosk
For comedic purposes Bulma whipped out a machine gun and blasted Goku who was unharmed.

This was way back when he was upset about the missing "pillow". Before Roshi had been introduced.

Goku was shown bullet proof multiple times as a child iirc.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Jubilee was never shot by stiltman, Jubilee's technology was never stolen from her and used by someone else.

uhuh

Stiltman never fellatio'd a vampire.

Originally posted by Creshosk
"Cooler" is not a valid argument.

"Better" is, though. Never seen Thanos operating at speed even remotely close to Frieza's.

Originally posted by -Pr-
we both know that's a poor example. 😛

Yeah... Ka-Zar is a better one 🙂

Thanosi, I know, but it's still cracking me up anyway.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Maybe I've just misread your post, then simply answer this:

Is Travel Speed = Fighting Speed or not?

Not unless stated, no.

Originally posted by carver9
And that's where the problem starts. You applying real world logic to a comic book.

There's nothing wrong with real world logic. It's real world science that's the problem.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
uhuh

Stiltman never fellatio'd a vampire.

"Better" is, though. Never seen Thanos operating at speed even remotely close to Frieza's.

Yeah... Ka-Zar is a better one 🙂

Thanosi, I know, but it's still cracking me up anyway.

😂

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I agree that these comedic feats can't be used btw.

Neither low showing nor high.


Goku climbing to the moon and breathing in space or kicking Yamcha through the forth wall? Sure..... Goku being bullet proof? Not so much.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Quantify, damn it. The numbers are meaningless outside of comparing characters. Even then Yajirobe was able to cut off Vegeta's tail. The mighty Ozaru was beaten by acharacter with a power level A hell of a lot lower than his.

and wolverine was able to cut deeper into thanos than he ever did colossus. the mighty tyrant being injured by a guy who isn't a fraction of his power. this game can be played both ways.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm pretty sure Roshi or Goku maybe both I can't remember were deflecting machine gun fire early in Dragon Ball.. before all the upgrades started getting underway.

It was kid goku. There were at least 6 shooters shooting at him with machine gun fire and he deflected all of their bullets with his reflex speed.

Then we have him defeating the red ribbon army without getting touched by a bullet.