Heralds vs Odin

Started by leonidas29 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
The problem is that the 'HMR' blast is the single greatest display of raw power we've ever seen Galactus unleash -- hungry OR well fed. That's one of the many reasons why it's so hard to gauge what level he was at during that scene.

My take: we know G was drawing on the energies of his very being just to stay alive during Annihilation -- I don't think he's ever had to do so for such a prolonged period of time. This means he could have well been at the weakest we've ever seen him. That much energy expenditure affected G to such an extent that not even feeding as frequently as he was in Godhunter (ie. literally as fast as he could) was properly sating him -- like I said before, missing out on 2 meals nearly killed him.

So unless the canisters housed so much energy that they were able to rebuild G's 'core' and return him to his normal powerlevels (unlikely), then he still MUST have been in a weakened state, even with their added power. Maybe not AS weak, but still significantly below his 'standard' levels.

...IF you are of the opinion that he even absorbed canister-powa, that is. 🙂

fair enough. he clearly had some serious reserves left. in the past, he was so weak reed could have just let him die. deciding to save him led to the whole trial of reed arc. clearly he wasn't THAT weak. i honestly don't know HOW weak he was. weak for sure, i agree completely, but not as weak as we've seen him. that's why he's such a frustrating character to try and gauge and compare. he can be so weak and at times so powerful. makes it essentially impossible to gauge his 'norm'. which makes it equally difficult to use him in vs matches at times. 😬

on a different note--how's the fam??

Originally posted by leonidas
fair enough. he clearly had some serious reserves left. in the past, he was so weak reed could have just let him die. deciding to save him led to the whole trial of reed arc. clearly he wasn't THAT weak. i honestly don't know HOW weak he was. weak for sure, i agree completely, but not as weak as we've seen him. that's why he's such a frustrating character to try and gauge and compare. he can be so weak and at times so powerful. makes it essentially impossible to gauge his 'norm'. which makes it equally difficult to use him in vs matches at times. 😬

on a different note--how's the fam??

That's that thing, G is one of those guys who varies wildly depending on who's writing him at the time. Frustrating indeed.

Family is good. Our daughter is about 4mths now, so she's starting to sleep more during the night (thank god.) But other then the sleep deprivation over the past few months it's been great.

You?

re: ss's 'upgrade'. what books has he appeared in SINCE annhilation? it seems there is not enough evidence to decided whether he truly has been upgraded in power levels or not. aside from annihilation, there must be other appearances that would help indictate his current level.... his fight with bill certainly doesn't prove anything conclusively to me. he's beaten foes more powerful than bill before annihilation. so, just what HAS he done since then to support an increase in power? najia? anyone?

Originally posted by leonidas
re: ss's 'upgrade'. what books has he appeared in SINCE annhilation? it seems there is not enough evidence to decided whether he truly has been upgraded in power levels or not. aside from annihilation, there must be other appearances that would help indictate his current level.... his fight with bill certainly doesn't prove anything conclusively to me. he's beaten foes more powerful than bill before annihilation. so, just what HAS he done since then to support an increase in power? najia? anyone?
Heh, and if you look at the Surfer/Bill fight they seemed pretty equal, until Surfer used his board to cheap-shot Bill.

Tbh, I don't think he received a power upgrade so much as a mindset upgrade.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's that thing, G is one of those guys who varies wildly depending on who's writing him at the time. Frustrating indeed.

Family is good. Our daughter is about 4mths now, so she's starting to sleep more during the night (thank god.) But other then the sleep deprivation over the past few months it's been great.

You?

😂

i remember those days.... my firstborn was blessed with colic!! worst 3 months ever. after 3 months it was like magic. my own kids are fantastic. 6 & 7 already. damn time flies....

Originally posted by Galan007
Heh, and if you look at the Surfer/Bill fight they seemed pretty equal, until Surfer used his board to cheap-shot Bill.

Tbh, I don't think he received a power upgrade so much as a mindset upgrade.

yeah, that's my thinking as well. i'm willing to change my mind, but i need more concrete proof.

oh, and rage--you got scans of zeus beating g? i thought you mentioned that earlier. where did it happen? context?

Chaos War #2. Zeus was upgraded -slightly- by Mikaboshi.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Thanks to Guy

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

i remember those days.... my firstborn was blessed with colic!! worst 3 months ever. after 3 months it was like magic. my own kids are fantastic. 6 & 7 already. damn time flies....

yeah, that's my thinking as well. i'm willing to change my mind, but i need more concrete proof.

oh, and rage--you got scans of zeus beating g? i thought you mentioned that earlier. where did it happen? context?

Chaos War #3 -- Zeus drops Galactus:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1456/zues1.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3224/zues2.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4599/zues3.jpg

However, Zeus was possessed/empowered by the Chaos King at the time:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5304/zues4.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5121/zues5.jpg
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4835/zues6.jpg
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6421/zues7.jpg

Beat you to the punch. 😛

I saw the edit(s) you son of a.... ahuh

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Beat you to the punch. 😛

huh. cool. g dropped pretty damn quick. but if he was amped... 😬

According to Pak, Zeus was slightly above an average Skyfather. Galactus better pray he doesn't come across Odin.

GALAKADOOOM

Originally posted by Galan007
I saw the edit(s) you son of a.... ahuh

ha-som

Originally posted by leonidas
huh. cool. g dropped pretty damn quick. but if he was amped... 😬

Galactus was also about to feed on a planet before he got teleported to earth by Herc. So it's likely that Galactus was hungry.

after zeus dropped galactus, how was herc able to kill him so easily? i was confused when I read it

Originally posted by leonidas
re: ss's 'upgrade'. what books has he appeared in SINCE annhilation? it seems there is not enough evidence to decided whether he truly has been upgraded in power levels or not. aside from annihilation, there must be other appearances that would help indictate his current level.... his fight with bill certainly doesn't prove anything conclusively to me. he's beaten foes more powerful than bill before annihilation. so, just what HAS he done since then to support an increase in power? najia? anyone?

😈

Originally posted by Galan007
Heh, and if you look at the Surfer/Bill fight they seemed pretty equal, until Surfer used his board to cheap-shot Bill.

Tbh, I don't think he received a power upgrade so much as a mindset upgrade.

👆
Marvel editor Tom B said Surfer recieved no upgrade at all, as did Kieth Giffen(Annihilation writer). In his appearnaces since Annihilation his hasnt dsiplayed anything greater than "classic Surfer". All Galactus did was stop Surfer being such a pacafist, people seem to think he was upgraded because he matched Thanos power lvl, which is wrong as he only matched his power signature ie cosmic power/energy.

no way

surfer didn't want to hurt bill and kept telling him to stop his quest to kill galactus, then beat the glue out of him (pause)

Nah, Surfer's mission was to stop Bill. I've always found it funny that Surfer asked Bill to "talk" as he was simultaneously attacking him. lulz

Anyhow, Bill was taking everything Surfer was dishing out, and even giving some back. Then Surfer used the board-cheap-shot maneuver to start gaining some headway. A shady, shady tactic on his part. 👇

If that'd have been Superman, that board would have gone right up Surfer's vagina, am I right?

Anyway, Odin, definitley.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If that'd have been Superman, that board would have gone right up Surfer's vagina, am I right?

Originally posted by Philosophía
If that'd have been Thor, that board would have gone right up Surfer's vagina, am I right?