Originally posted by leonidasWe have already established even after you know my reasoning you repeatedly ask for me to restate myself.
to recap--so we've established you seem unable to debate without belittling and insulting.
we've established you put less credence in feats than in your own opinion of a character.
and we've established you don't even NEED feats or can extrapolate hugely based on very limited feats.
we've also established that it IS pointless to debate with you. i give you feats like IW withstanding g's blasts, and you..... give me lowball IW feats??? 😂 yet i'm copping out. way to stick to your guns 'shark'.
i wonder how weak you think g would have to be for odin to beat him. as regards your ss conclusions--you have zero proof anything has changed in his powerset. no increased output, nothing more impressive now than before. 2 feats off the top of my head that were more impressive than the t and a feats are overpowering mephisto one-on-one in hell--something even g himself couldn't do, and taking shots from mu AT HALF STRENGTH--mu who was a peer or according to him (which should be good enough for you) more powerful than g and then ss actually DEFEATED him. there are other feats that are comparable as well. those feats alone are at least as good as the t and a feats. if not, they are damn close. close for any logical person to wonder whether it was just a change of attitude that g unleashed in norrin. if a corresponding power amp went with it, it certainly doesn't seem like it would have been much, especially without ANY evidence of increased power output. ss's also taken shots from stranger.
as far as your feats issue--logic and 'opinion' only carries so far. when you discuss such levels of power, it is only logical to assume characters are peers. it's not like odin has only a 'couple' feats. he has dozens. you like to highlight his low feats, yet a group of heroes nearly KILLED g. Alpha flight COULD have killed him after his power was expended in another universe. g's power runs out VERY quickly. we've seen odin fight for LONG periods of time. and he needs sleep??? 😑
g needs to eat planets or dies. and he needs to feed FREQUENTLY. odinsleep only happens VERY rarely (rage prolly knows how often exactly, but i forget). so....... great point. 😐
and something i find funny--g NEVER broke quasar's shields during their battle. quasar's shields>thanos's apparently. cool.
well done shark. i'm guess i was just devoured again. 😂
I put some credence in feats just not to the extent you do which is apparently too much. Portrayal is where it's at and always will be.
I need portrayal, common sense, and a few feats I guess you always side with the character with more appearances since they are bound to have more feats.
Someone else withstanding G's blasts is a great feat for that or those characters and you've already agreed that a well fed Galactus is more powerful than Odin so you agree with me despite your posturing.
The Brb manhandling and the T and A proves it to me since half dead he survived manipulating the crunch which Galactus himself called, inconceivable.
G did so in his own realm and quite easily. He showed he can absorb his entire realm so Meph backed down. Incredible feat. Yet you falsely portray Galactus to be unable to affect Meph down there when in fact he was going to absorb his entire realm if the fight had continued.
You can pretend he hasn't had an upgrade if you want to but I have already given my reasoning as to why I believe this to be true.
Galactus has defeated scores of opponents while extremely weakened as well whereas odin has less power and is even less impressive when he needs to sleep as opposed to Galactus. So it all makes sense Galactus is more powerful than Odin while well fed and when they are both weakened thus keeping the playing field even. You seem obsessed with comparing a full strength Odin to a weakened Galactus.
It doesn't matter how often we've already established at full power you agree Galactus is more powerful.
Did quasar face a well nourished Galactus like Thanos did ?
You agree with me and continued to argue anyways. You kinda pwned yourself.
