Superman, Hancock and Hulk VS Hogwarts.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because you have never made a thread and modified it so the thread could exist, right. Invisible Hogwarts = no thread. Though this is the only way Hogwarts survives here, there not being a fight. Why didn't you start with this angle in page 1?

He used his heat vision from far away and then slammed himself into the ocean's floor, iirc.

Na, dude. Considering the same "Hogwarts is invisible!" desperation tactic was tried, it's obvious the 501st stomped.

Thought not.

I love the waiting for a blitz part. You dont wait to be blitz, you HAVE NO TIME to react. Period. Unless you are much faster than the blitzer. Oh wait, its get better Supes and Hancock will get tired before the fight is over in 2 seconds??

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes. All the luck in the world won't stop a goddamn meteor from crushing you, nor will it stop Superman.

Besides, the Wizards will have no time to drink it before Superman kills every last one of them.

Then they lose due to the rule Zampano wisely pointed out. While they can get to and from it quickly, they can't breath in space, so are unable to return to the field.

I was just asking. I tend to shy away from any arguments involving felix felicis. WAY too much grey area there.

They apparate BEFORE they are cast into space.

Then they have fled the field and automatically lose.

edit: Lol @ the concept of Superman getting hit by a death spell. Wtf? GOOHWTS.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I love the waiting for a blitz part. You dont wait to be blitz, you HAVE NO TIME to react. Period. Unless you are much faster than the blitzer. Oh wait, its get better Supes and Hancock will get tired before the fight is over in 2 seconds??

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Next question.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No-limits fallacy. Unless the shield has on-screen proof that it can repel something with the force that Superman can muster up, it will be as the wind to him. A mere annoyance.

Unless you can prove that it can repel all physical attacks possible ever, even Supermans continent supporting punches moving at lightspeed, then I suggest you stop with these silly fallacies.

There is also the "no-limits fallacy" in reverse. It is the fallacy that assumes that there has to be a limit when no limit was imposed. It is the failed tool of those that are backed into a corner: you have no way around it so you pretend that it fits a fallacy when your very use of the no-limits fallacy argument also fits a different version of that same arguemnt: the limits fallacy.

This in no way addresses what I stated and inf act, ignores it.

The burden of proof is on you.

You literally cannot prove you thesis and the only evidence we have it is that it keeps out all physical and magical attacks while also nulling electronics.

The only way around it is using magic on it. (Proven in Deathly Hollows.)

You cannot pretend that there is a limit when none exists. If one exists, you must prove it. Since no physical limit exists (all physical and most magical was the stipulation), you are simply wrong.

You can pretend a no limits fallacy applies, but it doesn't simply because you have no way of proving your perspective and my point was proven before the thread started.

I will not address this point anymore as it was silly from the beginning.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Superman with a single punch would level the building and kill ever person inside. Yours is a faulty analogy because you cannot do that. Its like saying, Sue Storm is invisible, so I have no chance of beating her with this nuke at all. Clearly false.

If that were my point, you may actually have a point. Since that was not my point and it illustrates you missed it, I'll restate it:

That changes nothing at all: I know where London is but if it were invisible and I needed to attack specific people, I would not be able to do jack shit about it: especially if those three people were protected by layers of shields that specifically prevented me from detecting, physically approaching them, or seeing them.

In your faulty Sue Storm analogy, you would have to have re-worded it as follows:

"Its like saying, Sue Storm is invisible to any senses (which includes ALL of human technology) except those that are magic, cannot be harmed by any physical means, can only harm her with specific and very powerful shield nulling magic, and I obviously have no chance of beating her with this nuke at all. Clearly true."

Thanks for playing.

Let's not try that again. It's rather annoying when I have to explain something that I know you understood but chose to ignore.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When was it mentioned? I recall no scene. Find a youtube link or drop the point if you may.

And please, your flattery is so hamhanded.

Nope. I definitely will not do so.

I am dead serious.

You watch all 6 movies and YOU tell ME. This would solve lots of your problems with HP.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well naturally. I forgot that you were our Lord and Saviour there for a second.

It is about time you recognize.

Originally posted by Nephthys
NO. LIMITS. FALLACY. LOOK IT UP. SERIOUSLY.

Sorry, son, I knew wht a no-limits fallacy was before you could read.

Try again. It was not stated any other way: what ever endeavor you undertake, you will succeed at.

If you endeavor to avoid getting killed by a giant meteor, something will happen that makes that successful: meteor spontaneously explodes, another meteor hits it, and so forth.

No matter what, it is the "god" potion with unbreakable luck.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because I knew it would be dismissed. The spell that makes it invisible is a wizard power, BTW. A wizard power that is not being acknowledged, like many others.

So as he uses his heat vision, he's death spelled. So much for the underground speed blitz.

Go to the thread, post. That's a direct challenge to you.

Thought not.

Because allowing it would negate the fight. Not the first time something like this has been done. /repeat

LoL, If you turn on CIS, sure, they win. Turning it off as it's supposed to be, He'll be moving faster than their eyes can follow.

As I said, this same "Hogwarts is invisible" tactic was tried in there; there's a reason for it. If Hogwarts could defeat the 501st, then it wouldn't have been tried. No desire to rehash the same arguments in there. If you want to think that's me saying "Hogwarts wins", cool.

I've sent you some of the DC films, do you think the wizards are fast enough to deal with The Flash?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Then they have fled the field and automatically lose.

crylaugh Stop talking, dude.

They're apparating out of the castle, NOT to Antarctica.

Besides, if what you said is true, then the heroes lose before the fight starts because they aren't in the castle.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Because allowing it would negate the fight. Not the first time something like this has been done.

LoL, If you turn on CIS, sure, they win. Turning it off as it's supposed to be, He'll be moving faster than their eyes can follow.

As I said, this same "Hogwarts is invisible" tactic was tried; there's a reason for it. If Hogwarts could defeat the 501st, then it wouldn't have been tried. No desire to rehash the same arguments in there. If you want to think that's me saying "Hogwarts wins", cool.

I've sent you some of the DC films, do you think the wizards are fast enough to deal with The Flash?

Originally posted by Zampanó
I don't think that the Horcruxes are such a big deal.

According to the comic vs. rules:

If Voldy has to leave Hogwarts to be reborn (what with getting a bone from his father at the graveyard) then he is no longer part of the match.

So Voldemort is no t significantly more durable than any other wizard.
[And I remain dubious about Voldemort carrying the Horcruxes with him to every thread. That seems to defeat the point of Horcruxes, doesn't it? I'd consider them to exist in every thread, but not on his person.]

I'm very sure that platform 9.75 was mentioned as invisible, but I'd be surprised if Hogwarts itself was mentioned while onscreen. That sounds like a book only detail. As such, I'd very much like to see where. (Just give me the movie and the scene. I'll even do the legwork.)

No such rules exist here.

This is not a comic book versus thread. This is MVF.

Originally posted by Robtard
Have you watched Superman Returns? Speed-blitz /end. Turning off CIS of course. Zero objectively, really? I sided with RJ that magic would likely affect movie Superman, all things considered. Still doesn't counter how fast the alien can travel.

Making Hogwarts invisible cancels out the thread. Logical concessions have been made in here since the sub-form started. Why is it only a problem when it's Hogwarts on the losing end?

Na. One side is just so ridiculously more powerful and it isn't the humans with powerful spells.

Yes I have and you know I have. Speed biltz and punches an invisible shield that he has no idea where it exists.

It is only a problem when people ignore or gimp HP similar to how it was done against Twilight vamps and similar to how it was done against force powers (we have to go a few years back for that force stuff...but it is a recurring problem in the MVF.)

You have it backwards.

And yet:

Originally posted by Impediment
Isn't leaving the battlefield cheating or forfeiture? I'm not sure if that would hold here.

link

Clearly Impediment has no problem with that rule.

In that case since theres no self BFR, Supes Sun amps then comes back to really shit stomp.

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Thanks.

Originally posted by Impediment
Hulk may get death spelled, but Superman and Hancock solo. There is no f*cking way that an aimed spell is going to connect with two flyers who have super speed and super air agility. Supes and Hancock can dodge any and all spells, Supes especially. Superman can fly at near light speeds. The Fagwart spells will NOT connect with the flyers. The flyers then solo.

This incorrectly assumes that all magical offenses have to be aimed. You would definitely be dealing a gigantic blow to the HP side if that were true ( that all magic as to be aimed.)

Originally posted by Zampanó
And yet:

link

Clearly Impediment has no problem with that rule.

And yet, it doesn't require Voldy to leave if his body is destroyed. Maybe....JUST maybe...I was right about what I said.

Originally posted by Zampanó
And yet:

link

Clearly Impediment has no problem with that rule.

Originally posted by Impediment
Isn't leaving the battlefield cheating or forfeiture? I'm not sure if that would hold here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Snape can't apparate? Fine. Vader can't use offensive force powers.

Apparating is a wizard power, dude, taking it away is crippling.

Originally posted by Impediment
Would you like some cheese with your whine, RJ? All I did was ask a simple question.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, just saying that taking away apparating is crippling. How is that whining? Then I quoted the OP.

Originally posted by Impediment
'Tis a joke, dingus. dur

Any questions?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So the wizards, by default, have to be gimped in order for anyone to challenge them? Cool.

His drill bit attack cannot exceed what is shown onscreen.

Depends on the OP. Make a thread.

The wizards aren't gimped, no one is taking away their powers. If the fight has to be inside Hogwarts, then this invisibility thing can't be had, unless we got many opponents that can see through invisibility spells.

Ah, so the "he can only travel at those sub-lightspeeds when helping people and flying around the world" tactic. Good thing you take the same 'logic' to the wizards. <-- that was sarcasm

Got enough HP threads, so I'll pass. But honestly, you think the wizards are faster than Jedi/Sith, faster than the twilight vampires and now faster than Superman, so I think I know how that thread would go. "Wizards apparate, confudus and death-spell The Flash."

I have to work out, now. So I will not be able to respond.

Nephthys, if you could, requote good points that were brought up by you and others, while I'm gone: I will not be able to read back 4-5 pages due to time constraints. I'll PM you when I get back.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Wizards apparate, confudus and death-spell The Flash."

If we remove the ability of Walley West to time travel, that would be true. As soon as the wizard aparated, Flash would have no idea where that person went to.

But there is no Flash movie outside of cartoon movies. I do not remember the "saving millions in less than a second" feats for the Flash that are present in the comics.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Deluminator

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes I have and you know I have. Speed biltz and punches an invisible shield that he has no idea where it exists.

It is only a problem when people ignore or gimp HP similar to how it was done against Twilight vamps and similar to how it was done against force powers (we have to go a few years back for that force stuff...but it is a recurring problem in the MVF.)

You have it backwards.

Was a rhetorical question, I know you have, you did an educated guess on the weight of the island Superman lifted.

Again, invisibility is there, there is no thread. Period.

Wasn't there a Hogwarts vs Twilight vampires thread? Invisibility was done away with for the obvious reason of the fight happening and Superman is far faster than Edward's several hundred MPH capabilities.

Silly DDm, nothing you say can ever be right. :{p

But would you really consider it a tie if there is nothing left alive in the castle except the shade of Lord Voldemort?