Originally posted by Robtard
The wizards aren't gimped, no one is taking away their powers. If the fight has to be inside Hogwarts, then this invisibility thing can't be had, unless we got many opponents that can see through invisibility spells.
No one is taking away their powers? The spell that conceals Hogwarts is one of their powers. To allow a non magical being to see Hogwarts is taking away said power.
So what I said stands. So the wizards, by default, have to be gimped in order for anyone to challenge them? Cool.
Speaking of invisibility, Voldemort dons Harry's cloak, becomes invisible.
Death Eaters half apparate, go invisible.
/thread. The heroes cannot attack what they cannot see.
Ah, so the "he can only travel at those sub-lightspeeds when helping people and flying around the world" tactic. Good thing you take the same 'logic' to the wizards. <-- that was sarcasmK?
Got enough HP threads, so I'll pass.Thought so.
But honestly, you thing the wizards are faster than Jedi/Sith,Casting spells vs casting force attacks, yes.
faster than the twilight vampires and now faster than Superman, so I think I know how that thread would go. "Wizards apparate, confudus and death-spell The Flash."The wizards have foolproof ways of slowing them down.
Originally posted by Robtard
Was a rhetorical question, I know you have, you did an educated guess on the weight of the island Superman lifted.Again, invisibility is there, there is no thread. Period.
Wasn't there a Hogwarts vs Twilight vampires thread? Invisibility was done away with for the obvious reason of the fight happening and Superman is far faster than Edward's several hundred MPH capabilities.
Okay. In that case, you are one of the few trying to be objective.
Also, Edwards traveled slightly less than 10,000 MPH. Very silly as he did NOT do that in the books: it was a script writing error that made Edward have to travel that fast. If we could disregard bullshit like that, some of these debates would go more smoothly.
Originally posted by The Nuul
Walley West...This explains it all.
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So, like, you did not notice when I misspelled all of the HP words, though..which explains it all, for real.
Thank you for pointing out that I mispell words as I do not consider that douchy, at all.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Confundus and Immobulus are not "aimed spells." I mean they are, but not really, not like stupefy. They can be cast in the general direction of the victim. Especially Confundus.Supes and Hancock have no precog, they won't be able to tell where and when a wizard teleports. So.....Voldy apparates Hermione thousands of feet away, under cover, and when Supes/Hancock fly over Hogwarts, she whispers Confundus.
Simple, innit? 😄
Keep spinning the wheel, RW. What part of "near light speed" can't you comprehend? No wizard will be able to cast a spell "in the general direction".
Originally posted by Zampanó
Silly DDm, nothing you say can ever be right. :{pBut would you really consider it a tie if there is nothing left alive in the castle except the shade of Lord Voldemort?
Silly Zampano, cannot recognize the futility of his out-of-context quotes.
No, I already indicated what would need to be taken away in order for the Hancock side to win. It would be a landslide, at that point.
Originally posted by Zampanó
Actually, the invisibility of Hogwarts itself is pretty much a non-starter.The battle takes place at Hogwarts. Thus, the combatants start within Hogwarts. Thus, the invisibility of the castle itself is moot, don't you think?
Then it's a landslide victory for the Hancock team and is a gigantic spite thread.
What do you think?
Considering Harry has been taken by surprise by many things (all of which are slower than Superman or Hancock), this fight is going to be horribly fast.
I mean, even though it's all of Hogwarts etc, I don't really see anything stopping Supes from near instantaneously ripping the foundations of the castle apart before anyone can even raise a wand, killing damn near everyone other than the wizards powerful enough to shield themselves from dozens of tons of falling rock (there aren't many of them)
Originally posted by Impediment
Keep spinning the wheel, RW. What part of "near light speed" can't you comprehend? No wizard will be able to cast a spell "in the general direction".
Spin this:
Here, FF to 1:13...
Screen feat of Death Eaters apparating then going invisible. Now, once they go invisible, the heroes won't know where to attack. 20-30 of them doing it all at once, and......well......yeah.......
/ thread. 😄
Wait, are we having a feud now?
(And I disagree with the amount of stuff that needs to be taken away for it to be a stomp. Specifically, neither the shield charms, time turners nor Supes ability to turn back time would need to be removed.)
Edit: I think it is a terrible matchup and should have been avoided as the spite thread it so clearly is.
**** shield charms, **** time travel, **** felix felicis.
This:
Here, FF to 1:13...
Screen feat of Death Eaters apparating then going invisible. Now, once they go invisible, the heroes won't know where to attack. 20-30 of them doing it all at once, and......well......yeah.......
/ thread.
There is also the "no-limits fallacy" in reverse. It is the fallacy that assumes that there has to be a limit when no limit was imposed. It is the failed tool of those that are backed into a corner: you have no way around it so you pretend that it fits a fallacy when your very use of the no-limits fallacy argument also fits a different version of that same arguemnt: the limits fallacy.
This in no way addresses what I stated and inf act, ignores it.
The No-Limits Fallacy.
The no limits fallacy is the illogical idea that a poorly understood phenomena can be extrapolated to infinity or assumed to not have any maximum value or threshold. For a gross example, observing that a shield can easily withstand an attack from a particular weapon, one might illogically conclude that the shield could withstand fire from an unlimited number of those weapons at the same time, or that it could withstand fire from a similar weapon that was much more powerful.
The shield has stopped a death eater trying to fly through it. Therefore it can stop Superman doing so with far greater force and momentum. This the very definition of the no limits fallacy. Assuming that because something hasn't been shown to have a limit that it has none is stupid and wrong. By that logic the Death Stars laser has never shown a limit to it's destructive capacity, therefore it can kill God. 😐
I trust I don't need to tell why thats incorrect.
You cannot pretend that there is a limit when none exists. If one exists, you must prove it. Since no physical limit exists (all physical and most magical was the stipulation), you are simply wrong.You can pretend a no limits fallacy applies, but it doesn't simply because you have no way of proving your perspective and my point was proven before the thread started.
I will not address this point anymore as it was silly from the beginning.
Wrong again.
In your faulty Sue Storm analogy, you would have to have re-worded it as follows:
"Its like saying, Sue Storm is invisible to any senses (which includes ALL of human technology) except those that are magic, cannot be harmed by any physical means, can only harm her with specific and very powerful shield nulling magic, and I obviously have no chance of beating her with this nuke at all. Clearly true."
Thanks for playing.
Let's not try that again. It's rather annoying when I have to explain something that I know you understood but chose to ignore.
Again you cling to your baseless assumption that superman cannot penetrate the shielding. There's only so many times I can prove you wrong on that point. I simply ignored it the first time becuase its so ridiculous and wrong I felt I needn't address it.
But if I must I will re-word. A-hem:
'Its like saying that just because I cannot see Sue Storm and because she is hiding under one of her pitifully weak little energy shield that I will be unable to kill her with my nuclear warhead.'
Happy now?
Nope. I definitely will not do so.I am dead serious.
You watch all 6 movies and YOU tell ME. This would solve lots of your problems with HP.
Well as much as I'd like to argue your stance as well as my own, I think I'll pass on that. Yousay they won't be able to see Hogwarts, burden of proof is one You.
Sorry, son, I knew wht a no-limits fallacy was before you could read.
Try again. It was not stated any other way: what ever endeavor you undertake, you will succeed at.
If you endeavor to avoid getting killed by a giant meteor, something will happen that makes that successful: meteor spontaneously explodes, another meteor hits it, and so forth.
No matter what, it is the "god" potion with unbreakable luck.
Sorry pops, but you clearly need to re-read the concept, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Just because someone says something doesn't mean its true. Jesus. Otherwise Palpatine has unlimited power and every villian who says it is truely 'invincible.'
Try again, that is a no-limits fallacy. If God came along and tried to kill a wizards hopped up on luck potion, what do you think would happen? Do you really think that the wizards would get out of that shit on sheer luck? Face it, there are times when being lucky just isn't enough. Facing Superman, bloodlusted, is one of those times.
There is no 'god' potion. It is magic. Magic can fail, as has been shown numerous times on screen.
Stop talking, dude.
They're apparating out of the castle, NOT to Antarctica.
Besides, if what you said is true, then the heroes lose before the fight starts because they aren't in the castle.
Junior, I suggest you shut up before you embarrass yourself. Go re-read what Zampano posted and thenget back to me.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
**** shield charms, **** time travel, **** felix felicis.This:
Here, FF to 1:13...
Screen feat of Death Eaters apparating then going invisible. Now, once they go invisible, the heroes won't know where to attack. 20-30 of them doing it all at once, and......well......yeah.......
/ thread.
Except you know, pressure waves from the team annihilating the castle with the huge forces they're able to unleash will scramble organs, visible or not.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
**** shield charms, **** time travel, **** felix felicis.This:
Here, FF to 1:13...
Screen feat of Death Eaters apparating then going invisible. Now, once they go invisible, the heroes won't know where to attack. 20-30 of them doing it all at once, and......well......yeah.......
/ thread.
Superman flys upwards and freezes them all with his freeze breath as he did to an entire lake in one of the earlier Superman movies. Its either the one with the missiles or the wierd sun man.