Doc Manhattan vs Hogwarts

Originally posted by the ninjak
Gotta love it. I was thinking more along the lines of Doc Manhattan existing within the 40K Universe. Creating clones in seconds, launching them amongst planets and jumping star systems at a whim. Multiplying within lets say 2 minutes amongst many galaxies all independent of themselves.

Nestling amongst ships and and planets, some hiding and waiting to strike.

See, but a very powerful psyker would know he is there, and proceed to shut down his mind or blast his soul into ruin. From the other side of the star system, or in cases like Magnus, he could do it from the other side of the galaxy if he felt so inclined.

The Imperium itself has very powerful psykers at its disposal.

can't believe this has went on for this long. Bell rings and then Dr. M turns all the oxygen into carbon and all the wizards die the end...

Originally posted by NemeBro
See, but a very powerful psyker would know he is there, and proceed to shut down his mind or blast his soul into ruin. From the other side of the star system, or in cases like Magnus, he could do it from the other side of the galaxy if he felt so inclined.

The Imperium itself has very powerful psykers at its disposal.

Damn.
A question for this is giving me an idea for a foreign vs fight.

Do Orcs or Tyranids have such psychics?

Seeing the future, Manhattan wouldn't fall for that one....he destroy or counter them before they could try.

Manhattan can't actually act on his foresight, this is explicit.

Beyond that, psykers are also capable of seeing the future, and unlike Manhattan, can change it.

Not even counting guys like Magnus the Red, who could straight up beat his ass straight up.

Tyranids have some, yeah, the Doom of Malanthai is the most notable one, who devoured the souls of an entire Eldar Craftworld.

Orks? Eh, they tend to be a bit too direct for their abilities to work on Doctor Manhattan, though... Zogwort turning him into a Squig might work, lol.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Manhattan can't actually act on his foresight, this is explicit.

Where/when was this stated?

"Jon Osterman: This is where we hold our conversation. In it, you reveal to me that you and Dreiberg have been sleeping together.
[suddenly taken aback]
Laurie Juspeczyk: You know about me and Dan?
Jon Osterman: Not yet. But in a few moments, you're going to tell me.
Laurie Juspeczyk: If you already know the future, then why were you surprised when I left you? Or when that reporter ambushed you? Why even argue about it if you already know how this is going to end?
Jon Osterman: I have no choice. Everything is preordained... even my responses.
Laurie Juspeczyk: And you're just going through the motions? The most powerful thing in the universe is still just a puppet...
Jon Osterman: We are all puppets, Laurie. I'm just the puppet who can see the strings. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGj1zFxZMN4

Sounds like he can to me... just that he'd do so knowing that is its pre ordained.

"I have no choice."

😬

What, for real? One of the biggest elements of Manhattan's character is that he no longer has even the illusion of choice ("I have to thank you Adrian. I had almost forgotten what it was like to not know."😉, and how distant his perception of time has made him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"I have no choice."

😬

What, for real? One of the biggest elements of Manhattan's character is that he no longer has even the illusion of choice ("I have to thank you Adrian. I had almost forgotten what it was like to not know."😉, and how distant his perception of time has made him.

Actually, you're wrong. That whole scene was to establish the disconnect Manhattan has...not to show he has no decision on the future. He can alter the future's outcome but his apathy has him not doing so. He contradicts himself by saying he doesn't know when he already knows. He also altered the outcome of the conversation by telling her he already knew thus ruining her ability to reveal it to him...because he told her he knew and then says he doesn't.

Looks like you missed quite a writing gem in Manhattan's character, all these years, by incorrectly believing what you did. 🙁

Lol @ this. Jon will see any winning tactic the wizards have before they even think of it. Not like anything would put him down anyway. He was destroyed in every possible way and it was but a mere inconvenience to him.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Actually, you're wrong. That whole scene was to establish the disconnect Manhattan has...not to show he has no decision on the future. He can alter the future's outcome but his apathy has him not doing so. He contradicts himself by saying he doesn't know when he already knows. He also altered the outcome of the conversation by telling her he already knew thus ruining her ability to reveal it to him...because he told her he knew and then says he doesn't.

Looks like you missed quite a writing gem in Manhattan's character, all these years, by incorrectly believing what you did. 🙁

You're an uncle-****ing contrarian sodomite.

"There is no future. There is no past. Do you see? Time is simultaneous, an intricately structured jewel that humans insist on viewing one edge at a time, when the whole design is visible in every facet."
- Doctor Manhattan

**** this shit.

*backs out of room

Originally posted by NemeBro
"Jon Osterman: This is where we hold our conversation. In it, you reveal to me that you and Dreiberg have been sleeping together.
[suddenly taken aback]
Laurie Juspeczyk: You know about me and Dan?
Jon Osterman: Not yet. But in a few moments, you're going to tell me.
Laurie Juspeczyk: If you already know the future, then why were you surprised when I left you? Or when that reporter ambushed you? Why even argue about it if you already know how this is going to end?
Jon Osterman: I have no choice. Everything is preordained... even my responses.
Laurie Juspeczyk: And you're just going through the motions? The most powerful thing in the universe is still just a puppet...
Jon Osterman: We are all puppets, Laurie. I'm just the puppet who can see the strings. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGj1zFxZMN4

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're an uncle-****ing contrarian sodomite.

You're just mad because you know I'm right and it sucks being wrong when you've been so adamant for this long. 313

Originally posted by Robtard
Here's the exact quote:

"A live human body and a deceased human body have the same number of particles. Structurally there's no difference."

That's how I took it: "dead humans, don't matter".

Add the: "And the universe will not even notice." in response to Laurie telling him that humanity will go extinct from a nuclear war.

Now as far as Manhatten being alive like you and me, hard to say. He's basically pure energy.

Just watched it again and I'm gonna have to agree with you. His statement has the "I don't give a f*ck" tone.

Doc

I saw...

I didn't want to embarrass you.