Originally posted by Sirius77
I haven't been keeping up wih current wonderwoman, why is she weak?
Timeline was altered. NewDiana's like mid-meta in strength and toughness and speed (I think, it's hard to judge). She *just* learned to fly and gained the lasso. I don't think she has the cut-all tiara. She has bracers but they haven't demonstrated aegis effect and almost certainly don't have the lightning option. She's not nearly as experienced.
Basically, NewDiana is a different character. Slowly things are bleeding back and there's signs the timeline is trying to right itself, but she is not the herald-level, champion of pantheons powerhouse classic Diana is.
Originally posted by Q99
Timeline was altered. NewDiana's like mid-meta in strength and toughness and speed (I think, it's hard to judge). She *just* learned to fly and gained the lasso. I don't think she has the cut-all tiara. She has bracers but they haven't demonstrated aegis effect and almost certainly don't have the lightning option. She's not nearly as experienced.Basically, NewDiana is a different character. Slowly things are bleeding back and there's signs the timeline is trying to right itself, but she is not the herald-level, champion of pantheons powerhouse classic Diana is.
Damn that's really not cool at all. I took a break after "Rise of The Olympian". Now I'll just find and buy more back issues.
Classic Diana's one of the best people in the general level to go against BB, because her bracers do let her defend against the yell so well.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Damn that's really not cool at all. I took a break after "Rise of The Olympian". Now I'll just find and buy more back issues.
You gotta finish off Gail's run 🙂 The last story has an invasion by some *badass* aliens called the Citizenry (as in, kills GLs and incorporates a watered down version of their tech into their infantry gear level badass), and not long before that one there was also a cool WW/Power Girl fight.
Sirius77
So she's basically like wondergirl.... damn DC, that was a mistake lol.Is the arc interesting?
Maybe?
It's hard to say. Issues 601-4 were her fighting various threats and learning to fly, during which time we really don't know much about her personality other than broad strokes, and it's only in 605 that we learn how she's living, see her interact with non-enemies more, and so on.
It's not badly done, the fights are cool, but I was on the fence for awhile over whether I should care (because, after all, we don't know this Diana much. Also her starting as a non-flier then gaining flight seems to be a pretty irrelevant plot point, never does lack of flight hamper her, then she gets it? Yay, I guess?), and we still aren't far enough in the arc to tell whether it'll really be worth it.
In the long run, it may be worth it, but it has a slow start in short.
Originally posted by Mindset
He has a lot more than just yelling.
Yes, he's quite good in HtH too, is strong and tough, can manipulate energy, etc..
But the Voice is his big equalizer/trump card in most fights with stronger heralds, and removing it greatly reduces his ability to turn a battle around. Throw in that Diana's one of the best melee heralds around, and he's got a pretty poor matchup.
She can shut down his best range and will beat him in melee to boot.
Originally posted by Q99He doesn't even use his voice in most of his fights...
Yes, he's quite good in HtH too, is strong and tough, can manipulate energy, etc..But the Voice is his big equalizer/trump card in most fights with stronger heralds, and removing it greatly reduces his ability to turn a battle around. Throw in that Diana's one of the best melee heralds around, and he's got a pretty poor matchup.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
He doesn't even use his voice in most of his fights...
Yes, but most of his fights are against people less powerful than Diana.
In most of his fights, it's his melee power than wins, and in that realm he is outclassed.
When he does fight people WW's level, he needs the Voice.