Originally posted by King Castle
that is her running along side some one nothing special nor close to actual combat speed..she is going to blitz to get close and then choke once she is choking she is no longer moving and a blast will screw her up..
it doesn't take as much combat speed to bullrush someone as it does raw acceleration.
Originally posted by Starscream MBanshee, perhaps?
has WW blocked something akin to soundwaves with her bracers? ie something that's area of effect damage as opposed to focused damage
"Magic" apparently keeps sound from entering her ears.
Originally posted by Mindsetthat's what i say, but the Wondy supporters will take a scan of her running/flying aside him as evidence that she's just as fast as him or close.
She can't keep up with Wally unless Wally allows her to.
Originally posted by marwash22here is one i am not siding with her or anything just bringing it to your attention
Banshee, perhaps?"Magic" apparently keeps sound from entering her ears. that's what i say, but the Wondy supporters will take a scan of her running/flying aside him as evidence that she's just as fast as him or close.
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This fight? Again?
There's already a thread for this out there... the only difference being her not having the lasso in this one...
"Standard" WW, with her Bracers/Aegis Effect (which can block powerful sound, as the scan in the other thread showed her crossing them and blocking a scream from Silver Swan), would be expected to win (stomp? NO... but generally at least get the majority 6/10). She's much stronger than him, much faster, and a much better fighter. Speed blitz isn't a given, as she's more finesse-based than raw speed-based as her "default" go-to, but she can *totally* make with the ultra-fast attacks when she perceives it necessary (as her most recent fight with Power Girl demonstrated, when Diana crossed hundreds of miles in a matter of seconds to counter-attack PG after PG punched her into Canada from D.C., and got the drop on PG in the process).
BB can definitely get his share, though, as one un-deflected scream can send Diana reeling and give him the win; however, her reflexes and power make such wins less expected than with most others, via her Bracers.
Ironically, her not having the lasso in this isn't the real factor -- the real question is: Can she win without her Bracers? (Even if she has the lasso, which can subdue him in an instant, it isn't a given that she would have the auto-drop, as such, and her resistance without the Bracers is dubious in this context).
Originally posted by Black bolt zlets say WW has her arms crossed standing on the ground in the middle of the street and cyclops wants to blast a bird on top of 50 story building thats about 1000 feet behind diana. her bracers on the ground are gonna block the blast that cyclops is aiming at, thats like 1000 feet above diana and a great distance behind her ?
It would be more then a city. His whisper busted a city. But her bracers can block that large of an area.
I think BB would take down current WW with little trouble.
Classic WW's speed would be a major problem, as would BB's quasi-sonic blast for her. But someone posted in the BB vs Wrecking Crew thread an example of BB using electron manipulation to shut down Maximus's mind, a tactic he has used a few times. If he got the chance to use it this would work on Wondy too - Amazo did basically the same thing to take her out.
So BB has a couple of options if he can survive a DC speedblitz.
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
give them a break, they are trying to make diana something other than a overpowered/underpowered superman with boobs. cant say i like the outfit tho, they couldve been more creative
They won't be getting one from me. DC just destroyed a very great character with strong foundations. I love WW the way she was. This new writer is an ass-Goblin 😠
Originally posted by carver9
I have a question, how fast does people think wondy reflexes are?I know she is fast but how fast?
Much faster than the speed of sound, hence her being able to deflect multiple machinegun fire (from multiple vectors) with relative ease. Fast enough to deflect heatvision attacks from a Superman who is himself already moving at superspeed-attack mode (that is, a light-speed energy attack from a source already moving at superspeed, itself).
Don't know how that would be interpretted by some people's standards, but almost certainly that is fast enough to deflect virtually any energy attack, especially if she isn't caught by surprise (as, in a Forum Fight, it is assumed opponents have Fair Knowledge of each other),particularly if her (albeit only very occasionally employed) Aegis Effect is used.
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Exactly. She's really good. I just see the electron manip giving him a small advantage. Like 5.2/10.
I don't see electron manip being enough to counter her speed, melee edge, and weapons.
Originally posted by chomperx9
lets say WW has her arms crossed standing on the ground in the middle of the street and cyclops wants to blast a bird on top of 50 story building thats about 1000 feet behind diana. her bracers on the ground are gonna block the blast that cyclops is aiming at, thats like 1000 feet above diana and a great distance behind her ?
Nope. It does not protect a large area, it protects her and what's behind her.
It wouldn't protect someone 5 feet to her left, let alone a thousand feet away.
If she wants a city protected, she calls a GL. They're good for that.
marwash22
that's what i say, but the Wondy supporters will take a scan of her running/flying aside him as evidence that she's just as fast as him or close.
Maybe you're thinking of when she caught up with Jesse Quick?
There was a time when they had a casual race and Wally was keeping up with her going backwards, it's official that he's considerably faster.
She has the reflexes to react to him, but that's a different story.
carver9
I have a question, how fast does people think wondy reflexes are?I know she is fast but how fast?
Faster than Superman's, definitely.
Fast enough that she's hit Wally (Wally's serious speeds, on multiple occasions) and Zoom.
Originally posted by tideoftime
Much faster than the speed of sound, hence her being able to deflect multiple machinegun fire (from multiple vectors) with relative ease. Fast enough to deflect heatvision attacks from a Superman who is himself already moving at superspeed-attack mode (that is, a light-speed energy attack from a source already moving at superspeed, itself).Don't know how that would be interpretted by some people's standards, but almost certainly that is fast enough to deflect virtually any energy attack, especially if she isn't caught by surprise (as, in a Forum Fight, it is assumed opponents have Fair Knowledge of each other),particularly if her (albeit only very occasionally employed) Aegis Effect is used.
Ok... I agree with your post.
Originally posted by Q99thats how I was looking it as but some people on here are upgrading her bracers as if she can block areas all around her if she wanted to just with her bracers.Nope. It does not protect a large area, it protects her and what's behind her.
It wouldn't protect someone 5 feet to her left, let alone a thousand feet away.
If she wants a city protected, she calls a GL. They're good for that.
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Originally posted by Lord_Talron
pics or it didnt happen.seriously, pics please.
i wish.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
They won't be getting one from me. DC just destroyed a very great character with strong foundations. I love WW the way she was. This new writer is an ass-Goblin 😠
it'll go back to normal soon enough, don't worry.
