Thanos Vs Champions Of Gods

Okay, I'm gong to use another example with some feats to show why I don't think Thor's hammer attacks would affect Thanos that much. Even though Thanos has already tanked warrior madness Thor with the powergem.

Scenario 1:

If energy shot A destroys a city, and physical punch B destroys a city, in terms of destructive power, they're about equal, yes?

If person X tanks energy shot A without any visible signs of damage, then physical punch B may or may not hurt X either, although its possible. Hard to compare since they're roughly equal in destructive power, but probably not.

But...

Scenario 2:

What if person X tanks energy blast A who's power is multiplied by 100? In other words energy blast A is now 100x more powerful than normal and can destroy 100 cities.

Is it likely that physical punch B who's destructive power can only destroy 1 city hurt person X, who tanks energy blast A who's power can destroy 100 cities?

I'm arguing probably not, unless Person X is has shown a very strong weakness toward physical punches.

This is almost exactly what has been shown in the comic. Thor used his hammer to absorb Thanos' eye beams, multiplied the power by 100 fold, and shot it directly back at Thanos. Thanos teleported right back, completely unharmed by his own energy blast who's power was multiplied by 100. If he can tank that, I think he can tank Thor's hammer without much problem.

Are you going to admit that you've never read B&T?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you going to admit that you've never read B&T?

I have it on torrent actually. In fact I have a lot of Thanos comics and cosmic comics in general on torrent. (Am I allowed to admit that?)

I haven't read it in a while though, but I'm sick of having the posts scans myself and then explaining my case when all you do is use one lines and basically troll me. If I wanted to I could read the entire story arc right now, memorize the details, select each scan to detail my case come here to make a concrete case with each scan. But I feel like it's a waste of time cause people don't really debate.

If you really have it(which I doubt), you might want to pay special attention to Thor#471 page 8.

On a previously debated topic, Odin also summons his spear uses it in a battle where it's stated that he's holding back, so there goes the argument that calling a weapon is proof that Odin is going all out.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you really have it(which I doubt), you might want to pay special attention to Thor#471 page 8.

On a previously debated topic, Odin also summons his spear uses it in a battle where it's stated that he's holding back, so there goes the argument that calling a weapon is proof that Odin is going all out.

Mighty Thor volume 1 #471?

I'm going to read the entire thing again to get the full context before when I have time.

*edit: can you also comment on the scenarios I posted above. That took a long time to formulate.

Yes, it's the last issue of B&T. I think it's mentioned in another of the issues as well, but I seem to have misplaced a few of my books.

In case the pages are numbered differently in a torrent. Odin goes into Thor's mind and when talking with Thor, states that he forged the shackles that are binding Thor..

They also mention that it was Odin's fault in Warlock#25, the same issue where Thanos and Odin fight. I'm surprised you missed it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'll dig up the quote, just as soon as you admit that you've been talking about a comic that you've obviously never read.

And no, he proved that he could take a couple of hits before deciding that a physical fight was a bad idea and going to get a weapon.

I just read the issue you mentioned, where does it say it's a fake warrior madness that Odin himself caused? Thor 471 Odin even said Valkyrie was the one causing it. I have all 13 issues scanned.

Are you talking about Odin forging the shackles?

Yes and in Warlock#25 it was said that Odin caused it and also in Warlock Chronicles#8 it was specifically stated that it's not warrior madness.

Warlock: Apparently Odin caused this inadvertently mental imbalance Thanos.

Thanos: Why do we not simply take Thor to his father for treatment?

Moondragon: For two very good reasons----first off, the lord of Asgard may not choose to believe that he's responsible for Thor's woe

Thanos: Meaning?

Moondragon: That Odin might decide that Thor suffers from a strange malady Asgardians call Warriors Madness.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes and in Warlock#25 it was said that Odin caused it and also in Warlock Chronicles#8 it was specifically stated that it's not warrior madness.

Warlock: Apparently Odin caused this inadvertently mental imbalance Thanos.

Thanos: Why do we not simply take Thor to his father for treatment?

Moondragon: For two very good reasons----first off, the lord of Asgard may not choose to believe that he's responsible for Thor's woe

Thanos: Meaning?

Moondragon: That Odin might decide that Thor suffers from a strange malady Asgardians call Warriors Madness.

I can see what you mean though since I just glanced over that. You're right it's not exactly warrior madness, but it's some sort of madness that's for sure. I'm re-reading the entire thing and it still seems like Thor is amped due to whatever madness he's suffering.

Thor's still suffering from some sort of rage madness that amps him. In Thor 470 Doctor Strange makes mention that both Thor's "Rage" and "Power Gem" makes him nigh unstoppable. Both of those words are bolded, indicating they both contribute to his amp.

The "amp" from his rage could be Thor simply not holding back.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The "amp" from his rage could be Thor simply not holding back.

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Thats exactly what the "amp" was; Thor not pulling his punches...

Originally posted by Silent Master
I see, you don't know the difference between speculation and proof.

I see you still haven't grown any balls and answered the questions. Silent master deliberating a case... Other jurors.. He went into the store with a mask on, flashing a gun and put that driller under his coat..He was obviously trying to rob the store before he was tackled.. Silent Master... well he didn't say he was robbing the store.. so that is only speculation on your guys part LOL LOL. Do you see how idiotic you would look and continue to look with this line of thought. I already accepted your concession on the matter... you aren't the judge of proof or not proof.. I have given more proof then you (given none) you saying that isn't proof means very little. Giving evidence that backs up my claim will always win out over... not uh.. that isn't proof LOL

It doesn't matter really in the end. Originally they meant for it to be WM as that is what Warlock and BRB believed it to be. Two people who know Thor very well and have see such Madness before. However, later on they come to the conclusion that it wasn't true WM. In either case, it doesn't really matter since whatever it was clearly amped Thor. When you wanna say he wasn't holding back and thus more powerful or a quasi WM or whatever you wanna call it. He was more powerful than his usual self and that is all that matters.

What matters is that it wasn't warrior madness, therefore you have no proof it was anything more than just him "not holding back".

BTW, you still haven't offered any proof to back your claims.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What matters is that it wasn't warrior madness, therefore you have no proof it was anything more than just him "not holding back".

BTW, you still haven't offered any proof to back your claims.

By the way... I've already won the case... Me providing what you call "speculation" is more proof than you offering nothing. By the way, why on God's Green Earth do you think I need to prove anything to YOU of all people. I don't need to prove something to someone who's opinion carries little weight, a coward and never backs up their claims. Why would you feel I need to prove anything to you. Did you like my analogy for how you think Silent Disaster? He wasn't really committing a robbery was he.. cause he never outright said it huh? BWAHAHAHA

You haven't won anything, because you have yet to post any actual proof.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The "amp" from his rage could be Thor simply not holding back.

I read the entire thing, and it doesn't really point to that at all. The rage wasn't induced by Thor not holding back, it was specifically induced by Odin imbalancing Thor's mind, causing his mind to rage into madness.

His madness is what really amped him (and power gem) and it's something has no control of obviously. The Infinity Watch went into Thor's mind and got overwhelmed, even Odin himself was overwhelmed by Thor's madness inside his mind.

So clearly his feats in BT were done while he his mind was in raging madness due to Odin imbalancing his mind. Nothing suggests regular Thor could do this consciously. Even Beta Ray Bill in the 2nd last issue of BT said, "Even before he gained the power gem, his mad might was more than we could cope with!". In addition Thor can no longer enter his madness rage anymore because in the end Odin destroyed the shackles that were causing the imbalance.

On top of that he had the power gem to boot, who he clearly accesses multiple times, even while stuck in the force block he still subconsciously accessed it and said was getting stronger by the second.

Combined with his madness and power gem, he was said to be able to destroy Asgard itself (even with Odin in it), by Surfer.

There's also not much difference between regular warrior madness and Thor's madness. Beta Ray Bill and Sif continually mislabel it suggesting it's very similar.

Also, Odin at the end said this, "But we cannot allow this malady to go unchecked, for I sense it would eventually spread to other Asgardians, as would true warrior madness"

This line itself suggest Thor's madness and true warrior madness are very similar.

Either way Thor was amped to the point of being able to kick the shit out of the Infinity Watch, with Drax, Surfer, Strange, Warlock, Moondragon, Pip, Gamora. He even kicked the shit out of Surfer and Beta Ray Bill, something he would never be able to do while normal.

Yet, Thanos was able to tank multiple shots from a mad Thor accessing the power gem and come out with a nosebleed. Put any high herald or heralds in that position and they would get crushed, that's why Pip had to resort to Thanos.