Originally posted by Silent Master
Odin was only having trouble because he didn't want to endanger Thor, and was thus holding back, this was specifically stated in the book.
Thats the point though, the madness was so deeply engraved into Thor's mind, ripping it out would tear Thor's very soul. It shows how deep into madness Thor was.
Vince... don't think you have to prove anything to Silent Disaster. He's a troll and a coward. He always ask people to prove stuff and yet he never proves a thing. You ask him questions and he refuses to answer and just trolls more asking for proof (as if he is the determining voice on what is proof or not)
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, Odin was just worried that it would damage Thor, Thor on the other hand decided to risk it and destroyed Valkyrie on his own, turns out that destroying her cured Thor rather than damaging him.
I'm talking about the scene where Odin literally tries to rip the madness out of Thor and says it has too strong a grip on Thor's Psyche for him to rip out without hurting Thor's soul. This is obviously proof that Thor's madness is deep since it says the grip.
Odin then tries again, but more delicately (suggested by Warlock) to free Thor's mind from the shackle's that keep Thor from defending his own mind. The shackles that held Thor's own psyche prisoner was what allowed Valkyrie to induce Thor into madness in the first place. But with the shackles off, and Thor's inner psyche free, he was able to fight her off and free his own psyche.
Thor wouldn't be able to do that if Odin didn't break the shackles. The shackles was what kept Thor from defending his own Psyche in the first place, which like you said, was caused by Odin.
How does this in anyway refute the fact that Thor was clearly deep into madness?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Vince... don't think you have to prove anything to Silent Disaster. He's a troll and a coward. He always ask people to prove stuff and yet he never proves a thing. You ask him questions and he refuses to answer and just trolls more asking for proof (as if he is the determining voice on what is proof or not)
You really are a moron, that is the only reason I can see for you claiming that I never post any proof just one page after I reference 3 different comics to back up one of my statements.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Are we really debatign if thor was mad?Yes he was not holding back. No he wasn't in true warrior madness.
I have all the scans, name one one piece of text or panel that even remotely suggests Thor's madness is just him not holding back. I also like how people ignore the power gem.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Vince... don't think you have to prove anything to Silent Disaster. He's a troll and a coward. He always ask people to prove stuff and yet he never proves a thing. You ask him questions and he refuses to answer and just trolls more asking for proof (as if he is the determining voice on what is proof or not)
Yeah I noticed, I'm on the verge if giving up and just ignoring him.
Originally posted by vince_slice
I'm talking about the scene where Odin literally tries to rip the madness out of Thor and says it has too strong a grip on Thor's Psyche for him to rip out without hurting Thor's soul. This is obviously proof that Thor's madness is deep since it says the [b]grip.Odin then tries again, but more delicately (suggested by Warlock) to free Thor's mind from the shackle's that keep Thor from defending his own mind. The shackles that held Thor's own psyche prisoner was what allowed Valkyrie to induce Thor into madness in the first place. But with the shackles off, and Thor's inner psyche free, he was able to fight her off and free his own psyche.
Thor wouldn't be able to do that if Odin didn't break the shackles. The shackles was what kept Thor from defending his own Psyche in the first place, which like you said, was caused by Odin.
How does this in anyway refute the fact that Thor was clearly deep into madness? [/B]
If you're talking about the previous issue, the damage was being caused by the method Odin was using rather than the madness itself, as was pointed out in the issue where he goes into Thor's mind.
Originally posted by vince_sliceWhen someone posts something he cant counter he just ignores it or answers it with another question.
I have all the scans, name one one piece of text or panel that even remotely suggests Thor's madness is just him not holding back.Yeah I noticed, I'm on the verge if giving up and just ignoring him.
Originally posted by vince_sliceHe was mad...this is obvious. Just not true warrior madness.
I have all the scans, name one one piece of text or panel that even remotely suggests Thor's madness is just him not holding back. I also like how people ignore the power gem.Yeah I noticed, I'm on the verge if giving up and just ignoring him.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're talking about the previous issue, the damage was being caused by the method Odin was using rather than the madness itself, as was pointed out in the issue where he goes into Thor's mind.
I'm not trying to debate whether or not Odin will damage Thor's mind if he freed the madness himself, cause that's a given.
I want to know any panel or in-text evidence that suggests Thor's madness was just him not holding back. If there is please give me the specific page and issue so I can check it out myself.
Originally posted by vince_slice
I'm not trying to debate whether or not Odin will damage Thor's mind if he freed the madness himself, cause that's a given.I want to know any panel or in-text evidence that suggests Thor's madness was just him not holding back. If there is please give me the specific page and issue so I can check it out myself.
There is zero text stating that his version of insanity caused an amp.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You really are a moron, that is the only reason I can see for you claiming that I never post any proof just one page after I reference 3 different comics to back up one of my statements.
Funny.. cause I ask you questions time and time again and you don't answer and just go... you still haven't proven anything yet... Why are you such a coward and won't answer questions.. yet you want your questions answered... Talk about moronic. What's worse, you think your some kind of athority on what's proof and what isn't, when in fact you're a nobody.
So troll, If a guy walks in a store with a face mask, a weapon, and puts a drill under his coat.. but before he walks out gets tackled and accused of stealing... You would say.. well he didn't say he was stealing.. thus there is no "proof" LOL. That is how moronic you are.