Sodam Yat (Ion) and Superboy Prime vs Odin

Originally posted by Sirius77
@Leonidas, I know that Saturn Queen was able to telepathically talk to him, but nothing has ever been shown to affect him offensively as far as telepathy goes, but I can't recall a time it's been tried.

So telepathy is a another option for Odin. Cool.

Odin still stomps.

Originally posted by Sirius77
@Leonidas, I know that Saturn Queen was able to telepathically talk to him, but nothing has ever been shown to affect him offensively as far as telepathy goes, but I can't recall a time it's been tried.

Originally posted by shokosugi
evidence is for the weak.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Prime has blitzed Flashes and Koed them. I'll post the scans if you'd like.

Also, your words:

From this thread. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=419446&pagenumber=2

Either way, galaxy busting is irrelevant in this situation. Superboy-prime has been Koed once that I can recall. When a universe was destroyed, he then drifted through time and got slung into the future and woke up, killed some farmers, had a history lesson and then gratified a prison planet with hv and freed the prisoners.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Prime has blitzed Flashes and Koed them. I'll post the scans if you'd like.

Also, your words:

From this thread. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=419446&pagenumber=2

Either way, galaxy busting is irrelevant in this situation. Superboy-prime has been Koed once that I can recall. When a universe was destroyed, he then drifted through time and got slung into the future and woke up, killed some farmers, had a history lesson and then gratified a prison planet with hv and freed the prisoners.

There's never been any proof he tanked that chain reaction and we also saw a Monitor and his shield do so effortlessly.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Post scans then. There's also a huge difference between koing a flash and Odin anyways.

Alright here. It's the same one that I've posted before quan. I guess I'll post again like every time you ask me for it...

Counterblitz.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg

KO.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs2.jpg

After this, neither of the Flashes are seen throughout the entire comic. Considering their speed it would be highly unlikely that they "failed to catch up" with the rest lol.

So there you go.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The only reason I am arguing powerset is because that's what shoko is doing and unlike Superman Odin kills.

There's never been any proof he tanked that chain reaction and we also saw a Monitor and his shield do so effortlessly.

I never said that Precrisis superman would defeat Odin.

If you're refering to the previous thread where that was discussed, I just posted something else. Also, if he didn't tank the blast then how did he get there? Also post a scan of CA jumping and carrying someone else about a foot away from him.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Alright here. It's the same one that I've posted before quan. I guess I'll post again like every time you ask me for it...

Counterblitz.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg

KO.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs2.jpg

After this, neither of the Flashes are seen throughout the entire comic. Considering their speed it would be highly unlikely that they "failed to catch up" with the rest lol.

So there you go.

I never said that Precrisis superman would defeat Odin.

If you're refering to the previous thread where that was discussed, I just posted something else. Also, if he didn't tank the blast then how did he get there? Also post a scan of CA jumping and carrying someone else about a foot away from him.

Rage explained it in detail. That's logical.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I dont see anyone getting ko'd at all just him hitting back.

Rage explained it in detail. That's logical.

So then what do you call it when a character gets punched, is in midair with their eyes closed and never comes back for the entire comic.

I also explained it in detail. Show me a scan of CA jumping as a result of quantum overload and taking someone about a foot away with him. Rage posted an argument that did have logic behind it, but if you truly believe that argument and aren't just looking for a way to downplay a character, then post a feat like the one mentioned previously. That's logical.

Originally posted by Sirius77
So then what do you call it when a character gets punched, is in midair with their eyes closed and never comes back for the entire comic.

I also explained it in detail. Show me a scan of CA jumping as a result of quantum overload and taking someone about a foot away with him. Rage posted an argument that did have logic behind it, but if you truly believe that argument and aren't just looking for a way to downplay a character, then post a feat like the one mentioned previously. That's logical.

I don't have any of these comics scanned but I don't need to since Atom was transported back to earth why is it so illogical to assume Prime wasn't lost in time since the Monitor couldn't locate him or his body ?

It's always been ludicrous to assume he tanked the blast since he was gone afterwards.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didin't all these flashes beat him in infinite crisis ?

They bfred him via speedforce and it took three living flashes and one dead one to do that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have any of these comics scanned but I don't need to since Atom was transported back to earth why is it so illogical to assume Prime wasn't lost in time since the Monitor couldn't locate him or his body ?

It's always been ludicrous to assume he tanked the blast since he was gone afterwards.

Of course you don't. You don't have any of them period. Do you even know how CA's powers work or any of his showings regarding overload jumps? If you did, then you would know why this scenario doesn't seem feasible.

So do you expect him to be floating around in the same spot when he was at the epicenter of the blast? 😬

Originally posted by Sirius77
They bfred him via speedforce and it took three living flashes and one dead one to do that.

Of course you don't. You don't have any of them period. Do you even know how CA's powers work or any of his showings regarding overload jumps? If you did, then you would know why this scenario doesn't seem feasible.

So do you expect him to be floating around in the same spot when he was at the epicenter of the blast? 😬

Atom was transported back just as Prime was transported but lost in time. The Monitor can detect life in his universe as that universe's resident Monitor Prime wasn't there as he was lost in time. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp, buddy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were all present when the bfr'd him. LOL.

Yes Jay, Wally, and Bart were there, and then within the speed force Barry came back and helped in sort of a ghostly kind of way. Did you not read Infinite Crisis? Are you assuming that they were not present?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Atom was transported back just as Prime was transported but lost in time. The Monitor can detect life in his universe as that universe's resident Monitor Prime wasn't there as he was lost in time. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp, buddy.

I'm not even implying that Prime was still in the universe after the explosion occurred. I'm arguing that there was not even a hint of evidence to suggest that CA jumped and carried Prime with him and dropped him at the end of time while they were both in the epicenter of the blast that destroyed universe 51.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Yes Jay, Wally, and Bart were there, and then within the speed force Barry came back and helped in sort of a ghostly kind of way. Did you not read Infinite Crisis? Are you assuming that they were not present?

I'm not even implying that Prime was still in the universe after the explosion occurred. I'm arguing that there was not even a hint of evidence to suggest that CA jumped and carried Prime with him and dropped him at the end of time while they were both in the epicenter of the blast that destroyed universe 51.

You don't have to assume that but based on the evidence shown he didn't tank the blast since he wasn't there after it only the Monitor tanked it. 🙂

Prime solos the field.

Originally posted by Bentley
Prime solos the field.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying he didn't ko any of them just hit them back.

You don't have to assume that but based on the evidence shown he didn't tank the blast since he wasn't there after it only the Monitor tanked it. 🙂

What evidence? Give me this magical evidence and this argument will actually be worth considering.

Originally posted by Sirius77
What evidence? Give me this magical evidence and this argument will actually be worth considering.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Atom returned to the present and both he and Prime were out of the universe and the next time we saw him he was lost magically in time. He escaped the blast.

Prove that he escaped the blast while he was at it's epicenter. Thats some speed feat. You also failed to realize that they were both in different time periods. One in the present, the other at the end of time.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Prove that he escaped the blast while he was at it's epicenter. Thats some speed feat. You also failed to realize that they were both in different time periods. One in the present, the other at the end of time.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Prove that he escaped the blast while he was at it's epicenter. Thats some speed feat. You also failed to realize that they were both in different time periods. One in the present, the other at the end of time.

I don't have to prove anything the Monitor said he wasn't there and tanked the blast straight up whereas there is no evidence at all Prime did so.

You're missing the point entirely.

Originally posted by Sirius77
You're missing the point entirely.