Link vs. Arceus

Originally posted by ares834
No. The control time and space. But that doesn't mean it bagen to flow when they were born.

No. Many myths are based on reality.

Funny, I think that's actually what Dialga's Pokedex entry says. When it was born, Time began to flow.

Ah however it is not presented as fact rather it says, "It is said that time began moving when Dialga was born."

And Dialga consistently displaying control over time means nothing to you?

Controling time is cool. But it doesn't mean he created it.

No, Arceus did that when he created Dialga and Palkia. But Time began to flow when Dialga was born, and Space expanded when Palkia was born. They are tied to Time and Space.

But you see that requires the legends to be true. I see no reason for them to be true. Especially since Arceus isn't shown to be all powerful. I simply see them as incredibly powerful pokemon, but not literal Gods.

I still don't get why you won't accept the Pokedex as canon. Games are the highest authority next to the words of the creators. And the Pokedex is regarded in these games as factual information.

I do consider the pokedex canon. However when it says these pokemon created the world it presents the information as legends and myth rather than actual fact by saying such things as "according to legends" or "It is said".

And again, their other various entries being true, as well as every other entry from every other Pokemon, means absolutely nothing to you? And not even when powers mentioned in these entries and greater powers are shown in other forms of the canon as well?

The adition of "according to legend" simply moves them from factual information to possable. One of these also mention that Arceus molded the world with a thousand arms, despite the fact that he has no arms nor has he ever changed his shape in any form of canon.

Really pokemon has introduced the theme of creationism vs evolution. One has Arceus creating all the pokemon, the other has Mew serving as the ancestor of all Pokemon.

Back and forth is fun. "According to legend" cannot be overlooked in your eyes even though all of them have been proven. Except for the shaping the universe, and time being began at Dialga's birth, even though those are kind of hard to show anyway.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllMythsAreTrue

This is fiction. If the game says something, it's more than likely that it is true, unless there is reason to believe that the information is false. In Pokemon, there is nothing to indicate that the myths are false, but a little to indicate that they're true.

Take Giratina as the given example. "It is said" to have been banished to the Reverse World, which no one can really access without the god Pokemon. It turns out this is true, the Reverse World exists, and Giratina is indeed there. There's nothing condradicting the myths, and they're there for a reason, which is mostly exposition. In real life, you'd have a better position on this point, but fictional myths simply aren't like real myths, as they're storytelling devices which serve to give you an idea of what the subject is like.

Originally posted by ares834
Fine. What feats does Arceus have in the games? Other than getting caught by a ten year old boy and his balls.

The fact that Giovanni, N, Cyrus and other criminal heads didn't even want to catch him means he must be something essential in Pokeverse. In fact, it's arguable they probably don't even know/believe if he really exists (he does), since his tales are only told in myths and legends.

As to feats, he created the Pokemon universe from nothing. Literally.
He gave birth to Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina and the 3 Beings of Emotion, Pokemon with total control over emotions (Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf).

Originally posted by ares834
The adition of "according to legend" simply moves them from factual information to possable. One of these also mention that Arceus molded the world with a thousand arms, despite the fact that he has no arms nor has he ever changed his shape in any form of canon.

Really pokemon has introduced the theme of creationism vs evolution. One has Arceus creating all the pokemon, the other has Mew serving as the ancestor of all Pokemon.

But he can change. We see it because of his plates that change his fundamental being. Why can't I belive that he can't change to have arms?

There is no reason it can't be both. Arceus creates Mew, and after millions of years, the Pokemon we know today have evolved from Mew.