Master Chief vs Sauron

Started by RE: Blaxican8 pages

He is stated to be a Spartan, however.Wither he's a 2 or a 3 or a 50 is irrelevant as the differences between Spartans are never explained in the movies.

So a spartan is just a normal human then. At least according to MVF rules, nothing special about them.

Spartans are humans. They're humans that have been altered to possess super human attributes. These super human attributes have been shown within the movies.

C'mon, man.

Nah normal humans set in super suits that can tank normal hammer attacks...

John-117 is a Spartan II, it's been stated since he was created, in every book and game and comic. And in Legends he was leading an entire team of S-2's, so yeah.

And like Blaxican said, Spartans are ordinary humans who've undergone extensive genetic restructuring and upgrades. They've got titanium laced bones, extremely dense muscles, etc....

Originally posted by ares834
Nah normal humans set in super suits that can tank normal hammer attacks...
So then what difference does it make? The feats are the only thing that matters, and the feats are there. Whatever their "designation", or "title" is, is irrelevant.

Tanking attacks from a large hammer is not impressive in the slightest.

Neither is sending a couple dudes flying with a large hammer.

Its more than enough to take down the Cheif who has never been shown to tank such an attack.

Spartan armor has shown to tank much stronger hammer attacks, though. So that's incorrect.

Originally posted by ares834
Tanking attacks from a large hammer is not impressive in the slightest.
Stop talking, lest you further display your ineptitude to the forum.

He's trying to do some kind of "use your logic against you" thing!

He's not very good at it, though. He doesn't seem to realize that the actual feats shown on screen from Halo Legends trump Sauron's feats from the movie.

Originally posted by ares834
Tanking attacks from a large hammer is not impressive in the slightest.

Correct; anyone can do it, even a super-massive hammer swung by a super-strong hulking ape-man like creature. Tanking hits like that is old-hat to me.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Spartan armor has shown to tank much stronger hammer attacks, though. So that's incorrect.

Which attack has eve been shown to be stronger? I have yet to see the brute have a strengh to knock several men flying into the air and dozens of feet.

Originally posted by ares834
Is that really the way we are going with this? That is honestly the stupidest shit ever. I guess Master Chief isn't a spartan 3 as it isn't stated in the movie...

Ahhh, but you see, the difference is we have documented materials for Halo legends. None of the bonus materials for the the Lord of the Rings movies state the Sauron is a Demi-God. In fact, that whole Maiar mythology was excluded from the film, on purpose. Why? Because it would entail even more story and "facts" that could have been ****ed up in addition to too much time spent on it.

However, we know for a fact which characters are Spartan IIs and which aren't: their armor indicates exactly that.

Spartan I's? Nope. Spartan III's? Nope. Spartan II's? Yup. This is external of the documentation, of course. There's also the special features.

Calling Sauron a demi-god? Not true. That would go to the Valar as they are the Demi-Gods. The Maiar would be the equivalent to heralds of the Valar. Technically, none of them have the ability to make complete life so none of them would be demi-gods: just heralds to Eru.

Originally posted by ares834
Which attack has eve been shown to be stronger? I have yet to see the brute have a strengh to knock several men flying into the air and dozens of feet.

It's been covered, by myself, already, in the most adequate way. However, I'll do it again, for you.

The Spartan II taken down by the Brute was much larger than the humans she was with. She also displayed quite a large amount of superhuman strength.

So what about her armor? Superior to mithril, lol. It is also cybernetically enhanced to increased strength and absorb impacts.

The gravity hammer? Like it has been pointed out, it can launch multi-ton vehicles like it ain't no thang.

John-117? He's far superior to his Spartan-II companions. Arguably the best that the Spartan program has produced.

So our lady Spartan (who's name I remembered only a couple of days ago...but I can't remember today), who is inferior to John in everyway, died from a direct head shot from a Brute. But it wansn't an immediate death.

A gravity hammer blow is >>>>>>>>> Sauron's mace. What would happen to John? Most likely, he'd be launched but his armor and skeleton should be more than enough to get by with nothing more than minor bruises, if that.

Originally posted by ares834
Which attack has eve been shown to be stronger? I have yet to see the brute have a strengh to knock several men flying into the air and dozens of feet.

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The real irony there actually is that we see the brute, which going by size and bulk must obviously weigh at least 800 or so pounds, get kicked even further than what Sauron's mace does.

trolo, spartan kick > sauron mace strike. double gg

Originally posted by dadudemon
Ahhh, but you see, the difference is we have documented materials for Halo legends. None of the bonus materials for the the Lord of the Rings movies state the Sauron is a Demi-God. In fact, that whole Maiar mythology was excluded from the film, on purpose. Why? Because it would entail even more story and "facts" that could have been ****ed up in addition to too much time spent on it.

Really. All right I'll take your word for it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Calling Sauron a demi-god? Not true. That would go to the Valar as they are the Demi-Gods. The Maiar would be the equivalent to heralds of the Valar. Technically, none of them have the ability to make complete life so none of them would be demi-gods: just heralds to Eru.

Well the Valar are called "Gods" in the Sillmarillian. They are not "THE GOD" but rather gods of the mythological type, similar to the Olympians and the Aesir.

Originally posted by ares834
Well the Valar are called "Gods" in the Sillmarillian. They are not "THE GOD" but rather gods of the mythological type, similar to the Olympians and the Aesir.

But we are not in universe characters and we can call them demi-gods as they are not "The Gods."

Even if we give Sauron a sidekick like Samus, Master Chief still takes the victory.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
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He knocks a Spartan back several feet... Its impressive but not Sauron level yet.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The real irony there actually is that we see the brute, which going by size and bulk must obviously weigh at least 800 or so pounds, get kicked even further than what Sauron's mace does.

trolo, spartan kick > sauron mace strike. double gg

Umm not even close. He kicks the brute back no more than a dozen feet, who then falls down a waterfall.

BTW, I'm not saying Sauron wins. He still has to hit Chief who is incredibly fast, I just doubt MC will survive such an attack.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But we are not in universe characters and we can call them demi-gods as they are not "The Gods."

They shaped the world... I guess Gods may not be the most accurate term for them, but in truth neither is "demi-god". Regardless, they are equivelient with mytholigical gods, while the maiar are equivilant with demigods. There functions and roles are all similar.