Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Probably the fact that a single Alien was able to kill two predators in a row with relative ease. Definitely wasn't a good showing for the Predators.But then agan, Danny Glover > Veteran Predators, so whatever.
Danny Glover was lucky, and the Predator was cocky. It happens.
Originally posted by steverules_2
I was thinking about this today and it got me thinking...this couldn't really be how we found them or how they were created because this movie is set in the future. The AvP movies were set in present day...so if they do a different look or something because 'thats how they started out' or whatever it's not gonna make any sense. Am I meant to believe that the AvP movies are non canon or what?
But isn't Prometheus all about the origins of the Space Jockey & how they possibly created the Aliens...?
So appart from all the rumours abound (and please correct me otherwise), there's no real mention that Aliens will actually appear in Prometheus...maybe in flash-backs but not in the sense as a vital part/character to the movie's story line.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanBut then agan, Danny Glover > Veteran Predators, so whatever.
Wasn't it already established that the Predator was a novice on his 1st hunt? He was clearly a lot younger than the other Predators that turned up at the end of the film.
Compared to the seasoned hunter/Predator that went up against Arnie.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Probably the fact that a single Alien was able to kill two predators in a row with relative ease. Definitely wasn't a good showing for the Predators.
I actually liked the first AVP a lot. About "Grid" killing two Predators, I was a little miffed too, I remember telling my friends in the cinema, "wtf is this shit?" lol. But looking back now I don't think it takes anything away from the Predators.
First one (Chopper) who got killed was attacked from behind and killed via sneak attack so that's not even a "fight". Celtic died cause he was trying to be boss and not finishing off the Xeno quickly. It was also likely because he was inexperienced and didn't think of the acid blood being able to eat away the net. He did quite well with only bladed weapons I thought.
And Scar - he was just badass, slicing off a Xeno's head without looking, and then later this:
As for Predators killing multiple Xeno's, either in AvP or AvPR, I don't have a problem with that, Predators own! 😛
Originally posted by Placidity
I actually liked the first AVP a lot. About "Grid" killing two Predators, I was a little miffed too, I remember telling my friends in the cinema, "wtf is this shit?" lol. But looking back now I don't think it takes anything away from the Predators.
First one (Chopper) who got killed was attacked from behind and killed via sneak attack so that's not even a "fight". Celtic died cause he was trying to be boss and not finishing off the Xeno quickly. It was also likely because he was inexperienced and didn't think of the acid blood being able to eat away the net. He did quite well with only bladed weapons I thought.
I just found that the bias towards the Aliens meant that the film made the Predators look somewhat weakened - regardless of them being on their Rites of Passage. Especially since two of the three Predators were killed by Grid in about 5mins...ridiculous. Though Celtic did put up one hell of a fight.
And Scar - he was just badass, slicing off a Xeno's head without looking, and then later this:As for Predators killing multiple Xeno's, either in AvP or AvPR, I don't have a problem with that, Predators own! 😛
I did find that they tried to mimic the scale of this battle in AvP:R and failed dismally, with the Predalien fighting the Predator at the end. Though she was technically a Queen of sorts, it just doesn't compare to the force and size of the Queens represented in AvP and Aliens.
Originally posted by CadoAngelus
Though Celtic did put up one hell of a fight.
Celtic won that as far as I'm concerned 😛
He had Grid beat when he evaded its stinger and then later sliced it off. He basically man-handled him after that. His loss was due to his ignorance of the Xeno blood (or just stupidity). Grid got lucky on both accounts, he was about to get knifed in the head by Celtic. If they were to fight again, Celtic would win every time.
I think it balanced out overall, so the Predators suffered a heavy defeat at the start, but the rest of the movie Scar owns them like a bauss. Lets also not forget that the environment heavily favored the Aliens.
To be fair, Alien fans (in regards to AvP, and they do exist, quite a few actually) probably weren't too happy with Scar's dominance later on.
Also one scene I forgot to mention was the flashback to Egypt where there were three Predators taking on hordes of Xenos. Even though they ultimately lost, it was still an epic scene for the Predators.
For those still upset, I hope these will cheer you up:
Originally posted by Placidity
Celtic won that as far as I'm concerned 😛He had Grid beat when he evaded its stinger and then later sliced it off. He basically man-handled him after that. His loss was due to his ignorance of the Xeno blood (or just stupidity). Grid got lucky on both accounts, he was about to get knifed in the head by Celtic. If they were to fight again, Celtic would win every time.
I think it balanced out overall, so the Predators suffered a heavy defeat at the start, but the rest of the movie Scar owns them like a bauss. Lets also not forget that the environment heavily favored the Aliens.
To be fair, Alien fans (in regards to AvP, and they do exist, quite a few actually) probably weren't too happy with Scar's dominance later on.
It's obvious that the Predators would have to have some heavy dominance over the Aliens for the majority of the movie, because otherwise the humans would have been completely screwed from the start.
I thought Scar was an extremely good rendition of a Predator, I kinda felt like there was some homage to the Predator from "Predator" with the whole epicness.
Also one scene I forgot to mention was the flashback to Egypt where there were three Predators taking on hordes of Xenos. Even though they ultimately lost, it was still an epic scene for the Predators.
Some stuff on the Space Jockey's
http://io9.com/5879560/everything-we-know-about-ridley-scotts-space-jockeys
Originally posted by Kazenji
Some stuff on the Space Jockey'shttp://io9.com/5879560/everything-we-know-about-ridley-scotts-space-jockeys
Good link, Kaz.
Thats a pretty definitive line up of the facts.