Ridley Scott's Prometheus

Originally posted by jalek moye
Didn't the mural change to that after they entered the room? If so maybe it somehow knew it was going to happen this way.

Yeah although I couldn't find what it changed from. I like how it uses parts from an old HR Giger design. You'll notice both at the bottom left and right the pictures of the face huggers on human hosts. These are old designs maybe just incorporated to pay homage to Giger who has quite frankly been shafted by just about every director who did an Alien franchise movie. It's only in Prometheus that he's finally been fully acknowledged as the designer of the Alien and the entire "feel" of the worlds they create.

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Saw the film, tonight.

Excellent. The best movie I have seen in a while. I have not been that well entertained in a couple of years.

Solid 9 out of 10.

The movie lived up to its hype and then some.

I have/had a couple of theories about this film.

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Firstly, the reason the Engineers turned against humans is due to the things surrounding Christ. It was no coincidence that the aliens were just about to haul balls to earth to destroy humanity at around 100 AD/CE (it was 2093 in the film and the decapped Engineer was "about 2000 years old, give or take"😉.

What was happening around 100 CE? Oh, right, the last of Christ's first and second generation disciples were being massacred. My opinion is that it was the "straw that broke the camels back." After having read this thread, I disagree that it was the killing of Jesus: the Engineers were more than familiar with humans homicidal nature and were aware of that for thousands of years. Not even the killing of Christ was enough to turn them against the humans, but it probably contributed. It was the savage destruction of Christ's direct followers that finally sewed the seeds (delightful pun) of man's destruction.

So when the engineer wakes up by arguing humans, of course he's still going to be pissed. If we are to assume what the captain said, that was a military installation, NOT a welcome party. That "engineer" was NOT an engineer: he was a military person, of the same species, on a mission of extermination. Just look at his outfit sans his "spacesuit": that looks more like a functional military outfit. If we can get a clue from the first actual Engineer: he was dressed like a monk, not military personnel. Just as with humans, the "engineers" have different jobs.

So...big round stereotypical ships: scientists and engineers. Horseshoe ships: military ships. Same species, different types of ships, different types of "careers".

And someone asked why, if they have a 100% DNA match with humans, humans aren't 8 foot tall hairless albinos. There are genetic disorders that do lead to hairlessness. There are genetic disorders that lead to albinism. There are perfectly normal people that are over 7 feet tall, as well. Yet, all of them are human. If you consider that it is possible that all of those attributes are found in the same person (imagine an ultra healthy, taller, albino, hairless version of Shaq and you have your engineers). There is also the possiblity that the engineers made themselves that way: maybe their society has their own weird customs such as "hairless if you work for the government". Also...and this may seem weird, the Engineers faces looked like Greek statues'. <---not a punctuation typo

I was irritated with the "run in a straight line" problem presented towards the end with the falling ship. Someone pointed out that they did not have time to run to the left or right. Not going to fly: she could roll 10 feet, which seemed enough. So why not just run 50 feet. if she could roll ten feet, why could she not run 20 feet when it was falling in her direction? Rolling seemed to work...so why would running just a few feet to avoid the second fall, not work? Laaaaaaaame. False-problems: there was no problem of avoidance but the movie created the problem, anyway.

Also, it is quite easy to understand why Theron's character was a mean grumpy b*tch: her father was an egomanic asssshole of epic proportions and she was obviously cut from the same cloth. She was every bit as hungry for power as her father was. She also hated David...which explains why she pulled a 360 with the captain's proposition directly after he asked if she was a bot: "I ain't gonna be confused for a bot due to my callousness and inhuman coldness...let's f***...because I'm just a b*tch."

I read Blax's quoted diatribe. Most of those things presented have a nice answer for why the complaint is invalid.

I found the movie to be devoid of most of the plotholes being mentioned. One plothole that did irritate me was badass geologist getting lost. WHY THE **** DID HE GET LOST WHEN HE WAS THE ONE WITH THE POPS? You know, him getting lost could have EASILY been explained by the silica sandstorm: "no radio contact possible during this sandstorm". They could have just delayed those two's trek back to the ship by having them stop off by the ship's main-bridge...that could have tied into the Pop getting stopped there, as well. There was no reason/logic to have them get lost BEFORE the sandstorm hit. FFS, I am not even a professional writer and I could have done a better job with only 30 seconds of thought.

I have more thoughts but I am done, for now.

The movie was awesome because the story was awesome and the characters were decent. The engineers were such a cool depiction. Visuals were delicious. Cinematography was great. Music was great. CGI was great. "fun" was great. Sci-Fi flora and fauna were great. bla bla bla. Lots of 9s to be given out in lots of categories I rate films.

I found the movie to be devoid of most of the plotholes being mentioned.

Really?...You don't think that star maps/invitations to a planet that were drawn 30,000 ago when the engineers were supposedly friendly only led to a plant that was for the production of bio-weapons?

You don't think that having no explanation for why David wanted to infect Holloway was a plot hole?

You don't think that the 2 scientists being "lost" despite their being a perfectly functioning 3d map of the entire place as well as a perfectly functioning video feed being shown even when the captain is saying their video isn't functioning well is a plot hole?

You don't think that David saying over the comms that the engineer is coming to get Shaw despite having no clue where it was going was a bit odd?

You don't think that we don't even find out what David actually said to the engineer is a bit odd...you'd think that would be important. He could've been saying "These humans ****ed your dead mother before waking you up and I watched...it was great"

I couldn't disagree more about the characters as well...I didn't care one jot about any of them that died. Unlike the characters from Aliens. Even the relatively minor characters in Aliens were likable. Drake, Frost, Deitrich, Spunkmeyer, Crowe, Vasquez,...All of them were far better than almost all of the characters in Prometheus. The only 2 I found remotely interesting were David and Fifield.

The whole "Jesus" theory I wouldn't put too much creedence on. When Ridley Scott was asked about it he said it was considered but rejected cos it was thought to be "too on the nose".

Originally posted by jaden101
Really?...You don't think that star maps/invitations to a planet that were drawn 30,000 ago when the engineers were supposedly friendly only led to a plant that was for the production of bio-weapons?

Really? You didn't stop to think for a moment that all of those star maps predated the souring of relations, which occurred around 100 CE, by hundreds to thousands of years?

I see no plothole, here: I see a forced plot error on your part.

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Originally posted by jaden101
You don't think that having no explanation for why David wanted to infect Holloway was a plot hole?

That was a plothole to you? It was the opposite of a plothole, to me: it was a direct explanation.

A plothole would is a gap in a storyline...or an inconstant portrayal of the plot. David's actions were neither. If you want to say his character motivations are suspect, cool: plothole, it is not.

Here are potential character motivations:

1. Research at the behest of Weyland (yes, this is an actual reason, but to what extent this research's end served, we do not know).

2. Revenge against Holloway for being an ***hole to David (he was) while serving point #1.

3. David had not direct intentions of giving that to Holloway until Holloway became even douchier to David. Then David decided, right towards the end, to give David the black stuff because of his last remarks. David may have been on his way to give it to Weyland, for all we know.

4. David was testing Holloway to see if he was a suitable candidate for something....partially related to 1, but not entirely known.

Regardless, we know David did not like Holloway and Holloway was an ***hole to David. No plothole for why he poisoned him. There are other things at play, though, other than that superficial reading. Those other things are not "plotholes". There are other plotholes in the film like why the **** angry geologist guy got lost.

Originally posted by jaden101
You don't think that the 2 scientists being "lost" despite their being a perfectly functioning 3d map of the entire place as well as a perfectly functioning video feed being shown even when the captain is saying their video isn't functioning well is a plot hole?

I think you didn't read my post. 😐 Go back and read my entire post.

Originally posted by jaden101
You don't think that David saying over the comms that the engineer is coming to get Shaw despite having no clue where it was going was a bit odd?

That does not seem odd, at all, for me.

So...here's this alien, just got his shit run into. His ship has to have sensors just the same as the other ship. He can also look out of his ship before running about. The alien can also "look for footprints" to see where they lead to find any human survivors. David may have also told the alien where she was.

There is a million and one reasons to explain why the alien knew where to go, some of which are obvious, some of which are partially baseless speculation (such as his ship having sensors...).

Instead of instantly calling everything PIS, you should stop and think of why it isn't PIS and then conclude it is PIS once no valid explanation can be provided.

Here's a completely unbaseless, within movie context, explanation: "Big ass alien steps out of his ship, angry...nay... furious...because they crashed his ship. He sees what looks like a big ass escape pod a couple of hundred meters away and runs straight for the pod to destroy the rest of the humans before they can work on escape or send out a distress signal...because destroying the humans is still his mission."

Originally posted by jaden101
You don't think that we don't even find out what David actually said to the engineer is a bit odd...you'd think that would be important. He could've been saying "These humans ****ed your dead mother before waking you up and I watched...it was great"

I thought this would be explained by David in the next film, actually. Additionally, it doesn't matter what David said: he still had a mission to kill them all an the mission never stopped.

Why could not David's spoken words have been what his master commanded him to say? Remember the dialogue between David and Ms. "Survive Everything Despite having her Rectus Abdominis Severed"? David was free once his "father" was dead. We can speculate, NOT baselessly, that what he said was the perfect word combo to get his father killed: David's paraphrased words just earlier in the film. Perfect foreshadowing or coincidental plot? I think it was decent foreshadowing.

Originally posted by jaden101
I couldn't disagree more about the characters as well...I didn't care one jot about any of them that died. Unlike the characters from Aliens. Even the relatively minor characters in Aliens were likable. Drake, Frost, Deitrich, Spunkmeyer, Crowe, Vasquez,...All of them were far better than almost all of the characters in Prometheus. The only 2 I found remotely interesting were David and Fifield.

I do not think you were talking to me, on this point. I never said the characters were more likable than the Aliens' characters. Also, I did not care much for any of the Aliens' characters: I didn't watch the movie for the characters. I did, however, find the characters in Alien to be much more interesting.

David was a very cool character. So was Weyland. So was Holloway but they had to kill him off waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early.

Fifield was lame, imo. Disliked his character.

And...no, I did not make any errors in this particular section of my post concerning the names of the films: I used the correct film names for all of my points on my opinion of the characters. That should clear up some confusion if there was any.

Originally posted by jaden101
The whole "Jesus" theory I wouldn't put too much creedence on. When Ridley Scott was asked about it he said it was considered but rejected cos it was thought to be "too on the nose".

It was ultimately rejected, mind you. The vestigial elements of that can still be gleaned from the film. He could not have made it clearer that that was the reason things turned sour. That particular point was just removed in the final cut of the film because he didn't want to piss off too many Christians. Smart move...because Christians are bitches about things like that (some of them, are).

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Watched this yesterday , got to say I was underwhelmed by it.

I thought some of the ideas and concepts presented in this movie had some great potential but but the execution of it wasn't very fulfilling. The ideas only got touched on well in a couple of scenes the rest was garbage imo.

The designs were obviously good but I would only give this movie 5-6/10.

Too many plotholes and illogical thinking going that just kept taking me out of the experience. I was like these people aren't human cause they are making bad decisions all over the place, and not just bad decisions unintelligent decisions and things kept happening that just didn't make sense to me.

The two scientists getting lost is a prime example.

I also didn't like most of the people.

I thought the scientist who

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got his arm broken then killed because that...snake thing went down his throat was a huge dumbass, the creature was clearly hostile and yet he found the need to provoke it by trying to touch it...the guy deserved to die IMO. Charlie was another character who pissed me off, I just couldn't stand the guy and when he died I found myself quite happy, the Chemistry between him and Ellie was awful as well.

Originally posted by steverules_2
I thought the scientist who

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got his arm broken then killed because that...snake thing went down his throat was a huge dumbass, the creature was clearly hostile and yet he found the need to provoke it by trying to touch it...the guy deserved to die IMO. Charlie was another character who pissed me off, I just couldn't stand the guy and when he died I found myself quite happy, the Chemistry between him and Ellie was awful as well.

Seriously...

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You're on an Alien Planet and you take your helmet off just because you can breath the air in a space ship. Just because you can breath the air doesn't mean there is some kind of contagion floating around there. I also hated his reaction to when he realizes he is infected. Seriously I think most people upon realizing that would be going to try and get as much medical attention as they could instead of trying to pretend they are ok especially considering he just ahd sex with the woman he says he loves and could have infected. So now instead of a group medical personal looking over him and her to make sure they are ok he risks infecting even more people.

Nevermind the fact they just go hop and skipping over there as soon as they land and get themselves deep even though they just landed on the world and have no idea exactly what is going to happen, which ends up biting them in the ass when get this a massive storm comes through they didn't know about because they still aren't for sure how this planet works.

And yeah the one guy is supposed to be a biologist but he goes around messing and trying to touch and animal he has no clue about.

They don't have anyway to give the two guys who got lost a map.

Also something else that annoyed me was the fact they have all this equipment obviously no expense was spared yet the video feed from their helmets wasn't being recorded. If it had then they would have known instantly how those guys died by looking at the camera footage.

Also I thought David was stupid, he can look at all their recordings and use the Alien technology, yet he somehow doesn't know these things are hostile and he takes his father to come see them.

And the girl at the end stating that she needs to go to their home planet to ask them what they were doing. I'm sure someone in that base was a file that contained exactly the answers she was looking for without having to go to a planet full of pissed off giants.

I think my feelings to this film are summed up by my reaction to the Shaw's big punchline to David when she tells him he can't understand because he's not human. I was thinking crazy lady none of you guys acted like like a reasonable human most of the time so you don't know what it means to be human.

Also the big questions this film was trying to get you to think about. I felt they never actually did that, they just kind of glossed over them in a superficial manner.

I just could not get over all of that.

Really? You didn't stop to think for a moment that all of those star maps predated the souring of relations, which occurred around 100 CE, by hundreds to thousands of years?

Which was my point. The star maps is some cases were 30,000 years old. So the plot is basically saying this.

"We, as the engineers, like these humans...Lets leave them star maps to a planet that we only use for bio weapons production and doesn't have any real significance to us other than that...It's certainly not our homeworld because the humans will go looking for that at the end of the film"

That was a plothole to you? It was the opposite of a plothole, to me: it was a direct explanation.

So it was a direct explanation yet you go on to give 4 different unsubstantiated explanations for it. Nice.

Here are potential character motivations:

Motivations is a good discussion point with characters. If something is not directly explained on screen for a characters motivations then it can usually be inferred from their emotions. David's motivations are not explained and he has no emotions meaning his motivations are entirely unexplained.

1. Research at the behest of Weyland (yes, this is an actual reason, but to what extent this research's end served, we do not know).

For me, this would be the only logical explanation but the only thing to back it up is David's 1 sided conversation while standing over the stasis chamber before Weyland is revealed as being in the chamber (although it's very obvious that it is...meaning the supposed plot "twist" of him being alive was completely pointless.)

2. Revenge against Holloway for being an ***hole to David (he was) while serving point #1.

Yet the film clearly shows he'd already made the decision to infect him (or at the very least, someone) long before Holloway took the piss at the pool table.

David may have been on his way to give it to Weyland, for all we know.

For all we know...exactly...we don't know. Which is the point.

4. David was testing Holloway to see if he was a suitable candidate for something....partially related to 1, but not entirely known.

Not ENTIRELY known?...Not known whatsoever.

The only explanation is the David was testing the black goo to see if it gave the eternal life giving properties that Weyland was looking for...Which brings up another glaring plot hole. You would've thought that David would've mentioned to Weyland at some point that the black goo didn't give Holloway eternal life...But rather infected him with wiggly eye worms and ultimately led to his fiery death.

So...here's this alien, just got his shit run into. His ship has to have sensors just the same as the other ship. He can also look out of his ship before running about. The alien can also "look for footprints" to see where they lead to find any human survivors. .

You're missing my point. I'm not talking about how the engineer knew where he was going...I'm talking about how David knew where the engineer was going...What with him being at this point just a torn off head with no ability to actually see what was going on beyond whatever was in front of his torn off head.

David may have also told the alien where she was.

Yet this is entirely speculative and would've taken all of 5 seconds to show on screen. But is wasn't. It would've also been extremely stupid because it's not like the engineer could've threatened him with "tell me where she is or I'll tear your head off" which would mean that he would've had to volunteer the information...which would mean that in one sentence he'd be trying to get Shaw killed...And seconds later be trying to stop her from getting killed.

Which is monumentally stupid.

I do not think you were talking to me, on this point. I never said the characters were more likable than the Aliens' characters.

You said the characters were decent...They weren't.

Ford, Milburn, Ravel and Chance were all completely irrelevant and their screen time could've best been served developing the main characters...For protagonists, Shaw and Holloway were two of the most boring characters ever. Weyland was just pointless given the way they killed him off. Not to mention his make up looked like something from Star Trek. Vickers gets a pass just because she's a hot *****. Fifield was at least not boring...Completely different from every other pointless identikit character. Janek was just shocking. Is it still acceptable to typecast black characters like they were slaves playing bluegrass blues on the plantation...cos that's how they seemed to write his character.

You would've also thought that Weyland might've thought looking for the secret to eternal life on a planet full of dead engineers was a bit stupid. The only way they should to like for a long time was in that stasis chamber (as he must've been in there for at least 2000 years) but this is entirely stupid as Weyland could've lived forever in one of the human stasis chambers anyway, if Aliens is indicative of it because Ripley stayed in stasis for 57 years without aging.

Originally posted by Newjak
I agree on all of this.

Seriously...

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You're on an Alien Planet and you take your helmet off just because you can breath the air in a space ship. Just because you can breath the air doesn't mean there is some kind of contagion floating around there. I also hated his reaction to when he realizes he is infected. Seriously I think most people upon realizing that would be going to try and get as much medical attention as they could instead of trying to pretend they are ok especially considering he just ahd sex with the woman he says he loves and could have infected. So now instead of a group medical personal looking over him and her to make sure they are ok he risks infecting even more people.

Nevermind the fact they just go hop and skipping over there as soon as they land and get themselves deep even though they just landed on the world and have no idea exactly what is going to happen, which ends up biting them in the ass when get this a massive storm comes through they didn't know about because they still aren't for sure how this planet works.

And yeah the one guy is supposed to be a biologist but he goes around messing and trying to touch and animal he has no clue about.

They don't have anyway to give the two guys who got lost a map.

Also something else that annoyed me was the fact they have all this equipment obviously no expense was spared yet the video feed from their helmets wasn't being recorded. If it had then they would have known instantly how those guys died by looking at the camera footage.

Also I thought David was stupid, he can look at all their recordings and use the Alien technology, yet he somehow doesn't know these things are hostile and he takes his father to come see them.

And the girl at the end stating that she needs to go to their home planet to ask them what they were doing. I'm sure someone in that base was a file that contained exactly the answers she was looking for without having to go to a planet full of pissed off giants.

I think my feelings to this film are summed up by my reaction to the Shaw's big punchline to David when she tells him he can't understand because he's not human. I was thinking crazy lady none of you guys acted like like a reasonable human most of the time so you don't know what it means to be human.

Also the big questions this film was trying to get you to think about. I felt they never actually did that, they just kind of glossed over them in a superficial manner.

I just could not get over all of that.

I never really found myself saying 'Oh no not him/her! That character was awesome!' I didn't really like any of them to be honest, some of them I was just waiting for them to die

Originally posted by dadudemon

I thought this would be explained by David in the next film, actually. Additionally, it doesn't matter what David said: he still had a mission to kill them all an the mission never stopped.

Why could not David's spoken words have been what his master commanded him to say? Remember the dialogue between David and Ms. "Survive Everything Despite having her Rectus Abdominis Severed"? David was free once his "father" was dead. We can speculate, NOT baselessly, that what he said was the perfect word combo to get his father killed: David's paraphrased words just earlier in the film. Perfect foreshadowing or coincidental plot? I think it was decent foreshadowing.

I honestly thought he simply said exactly what he was told to

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The reason why they came which is what weyland told him to say: the eternal life stuff. And it only reinforced his anger and mission to think that the people they were going to exterminate for their hateful murderous nature came to him to try to get immortality.

Just saw it. Nice effects, but overall sorta, kinda disappointing. The film probably would've worked better as a free agent, not tied to the Alien universe. In a nutshell, I felt it aspired to more than it ended up being.

I'm also starting to think that perhaps studios should not make "prequels" many real-time years after the original. I wasn't particulalry impressed by the recent prequel to 1982's "The Thing," either.

How would it have been better if it were not tied to the Alien universe? The movie is only a prequel in spirit. The only thing that ties the series together is the Weyland name and a spacecraft design. Once he abandoned the Alien prequel, Scott never intended for Prometheus to be a prequel.

I thought the ending kinda tied the two together as well. Plus the engineers are also part of what tied the two together. And the

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giant face hugger

Okay, I've been reading the pages of complaints here, and I feel compelled to respond.
SPOILERS be damned.

1. I've been reading here and in other articles about how stupid it was for the scientists to remove their helmets in the central chamber (never mind how all their instruments were telling them how breathable it was) - they are holding this up as an example of what Roger Ebert called the 'idiot plot'; ie. that the plot moves forward with consequence only because characters act like idiots, and if they didn't the bad things wouldn't have happened. But guess what, this complaint doesn't past muster because: there was NEVER anything in the air. Nothing of bad consequence ever happened in this film because characters took off their helmets in there. It's clarified late in the film explicitly by David: nothing was airborne. (Which is when Elizabeth Shaw begins to understand what David did.) So people can just put a sock in it, regarding that complaint.

And Roger Ebert never found any examples of the 'idiot plot' in this, BTW - he gave it a four-star rave.

2. David is acting on orders from Weyland to do some experimenting with the vase he secretly brought back (hence his cryptic answer to Meredith Vickers: "He says, try harder."😉 But no matter what he felt towards Holloway dismissal of him as just a tool for them to use, he doesn't drop the black goo in his drink until he gets 'permission' from Holloway to do so (which Holloway gave without understanding.) They hadn't discovered the sleeping Engineer yet, so the fact it backfired so badly on Holloway was rendered moot in the view of David and Weyland, as they felt the best option was obviously to wake and talk to the Engineer and ask him for the secrets to immortality (if he would give them.)

3. It's up to debate how much of a private agenda David was following; did he speak to the Engineer to actually provoke him to violence (and perhaps escape his programming with the death of his 'father'😉, or did he speak correctly and the Engineer did it anyway, as they already established Earth was targeted for destruction of life and he was offended these selfish creatures came grovelling to him for answers they didn't deserve? I don't feel disappointed that, for the moment, it could be read either way, and they could be leaving it for a future film. Just as I never held the actions of HAL 9000 in 2001: A Space Odyssey against him as frustratingly opaque (or that it was a plothole he got the last astronaut to rush out out of the ship without his helmet, in a desperate rescue mission.)

4. People are complaining about the actions of their geologist and biologist, who get trapped overnight in the alien dome. You can debate about how they got lost, but it turns out the rest of the party had to leave pretty quickly because of the approaching storm, so the opportunity to go get them immediately was gone. And how they acted with they came in contact with the small-form in the chamber; let's remember their actions earlier - wanting to leave quickly because they got freaked out by the alien corpse (which means Shaw's Engineers theses was probably right - Fifield was repulsed by the notion of it) got them into their current mess. So the biologist decided they needed to switch tactics, seeing as they couldn't leave there anyway - see a life-form, let's act friendly, not fearful or repulsed (though the consequence was the same.) It doesn't make it stupid or illogical, how they acted. They wanted to survive, and were following what they thought was the best thing to do at the time.

And just because no one was up monitoring what happened to them that night, following their webcam feeds - there was group consensus at that time that nothing was alive in there. The captain dismissed the temporary 'ping' of one sensor (the same one David would investigate the next day, outside the flight deck of the ship) as a glitch.

I could go into some others points, but I want to leave it at that for now.

I'm not saying there isn't room for discussion on this, because it answers questions while raising a lot more - for us to either figure out ourselves or to tease us with until the next film. But I don't feel cheated, and I do feel tantalized to see what they will do with the next film.

Originally posted by roughrider
Okay, I've been reading the pages of complaints here, and I feel compelled to respond.
SPOILERS be damned.

1. I've been reading here and in other articles about how stupid it was for the scientists to remove their helmets in the central chamber (never mind how all their instruments were telling them how breathable it was) - they are holding this up as an example of what Roger Ebert called the 'idiot plot'; ie. that the plot moves forward with consequence only because characters act like idiots, and if they didn't the bad things wouldn't have happened. But guess what, this complaint doesn't past muster because: there was NEVER anything in the air. Nothing of bad consequence ever happened in this film because characters took off their helmets in there. It's clarified late in the film explicitly by David: nothing was airborne. (Which is when Elizabeth Shaw begins to understand what David did.) So people can just put a sock in it, regarding that complaint.

A sensor is only useful for picking up on things that it's been programmed to pick up on. Considering that they were on an ALIEN planet with ALIEN life on it, it's entirely possible that there may have been bacteria or elements in the air that no human being had ever encountered, ergo, the sensor wouldn't have picked u,on them. It was a stupid risk to take. The fact that nothing ultimately came from it doesn't change that.

If I decide to take a lighter and hover the flame inches away from my crotch, is that not a stupid idea just because I didn't end up burning my dick off? A bad idea is a bad idea.

I haven't read the rest of your post yet, but I felt compelled to address that immediately.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That's horrible logic. That's like saying that just because you didn't die or get sick from drinking the mysterious green liquid in the water-bottle you found laying on the sidewalk, you therefore aren't an idiot for drinking it.

A sensor is only useful for picking up on things that it's been programmed to pick up on. Considering that they were on an ALIEN planet with ALIEN life on it, it's entirely possible that there may have been bacteria or elements in the air that no human being had ever encountered, ergo, the sensor wouldn't have picked u,on them. It was a stupid risk to take. The fact that nothing ultimately came from it doesn't change that.

If I decide to take a lighter and hover the flame inches away from my crotch, is that not a stupid idea just because I didn't end up burning my dick off? A bad idea is a bad idea.

I haven't read the rest of your post yet, but I felt compelled to address that immediately.

If you can't understand English, then I guess you won't understand what I said in my first post or all the rest.

By your logic, they couldn't touch a single sample of what they collected in there because their sensors couldn't possibly take into account anything that is alien in creation, so something bad would be at risk of happening. You think in the opposite way of a scientist, it seems.

(As far as the holding of a lighter near your crotch, that's just a clear example of a male demonstrating their macho-ness to others; dumb, but considered logical within the minds of many men who feel a need to impress.)

It makes perfect sense. It's just horribly incorrect. Lol.