Originally posted by Robtard
Considering he was dealing with an immense level of power, trying to kill Dr. M with what created him wasn't a retard move, all things considered.
Explain why its not.
Manhattan's own statement explains the lack of logic in attempting to do what Ozy did.
Originally posted by Robtard
What was he to try otherwise?
Well, firstly he should've recognized that it would be futile.
Secondly, he didn't even need to kill Manhattan. He could have shown him the TV screen the first time round and it would've worked out the same.
Not so smart... ay.
I would blame it on the plot though. Ozy still clever guy and doesn't afraid of anything.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He manipulated everyone, including Manhattan.
I don't see how that is relevant to the discussion.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The tachyon stunt may have been just to buy him a little extra time for the world press to convene and international leaders to come to an accord.
Unlikely, I recall he looked surprised to see that Manhattan was alive.
Originally posted by PlacidityI don't see how Manhattan is relevant to the discussion at all, but everyone's doing it.
I don't see how that is relevant to the discussion.
Originally posted by PlacidityKilling Dr. M would have saved him a world of potential trouble (the possible blabbing). Next best thing would have been to slow him down. Either way, he secured his plan or at least bought himself time.
Unlikely, I recall he looked surprised to see that Manhattan was alive.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He's the best a human can be. Unfortunately, nowhere in our programming is the Infallible function unlocked, so Ozy just has to make do.
Well, I'm not sure I entirely agree with that.
I mean you could argue there are superior peak humans out there. Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Mister Terrific, Lex Luthor etc.
That would make for an interesting topic actually.
Originally posted by Placidity
Explain why its not.Manhattan's own statement explains the lack of logic in attempting to do what Ozy did.
Well, firstly he should've recognized that it would be futile.
Secondly, he didn't even need to kill Manhattan. He could have shown him the TV screen the first time round and it would've worked out the same.
Not so smart... ay.
I would blame it on the plot though. Ozy still clever guy and doesn't afraid of anything.
Because he was dealing with a being of immense power than even his own insanely high intellect couldn't fully grasp. Extreme heat is used to create a steel girder; extreme heat can also destroy it.
Was it a gamble? Yes. Was it retarded? No.
He had no guarantee how Manhatten would ultimately react in the end, so he planned and planned with back-up.
As far as Ozymandias being infallible, no one said he was. The "he ****ed up with Manhattan" angle was brought in to somehow conclude that he would ****-up kicking the crap out of these four.
Originally posted by Rogue JediYou just compared making a single mistake in an attempt to kill Dr. Manhattan, and a mistake in fighting these five.
That, or he makes a crucial mistake as he did with Manhattan and has his throat slit.
They are not comparable.
Beating these relative weaklings is a trivial matter for Veidt, compared to the task of attempting to blind, manipulate, and kill Manhattan. The first two succeeded. The last one did not, and it was a gamble, and he failed. But to even compare that to fighting these five is insane.