Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Same as the Captain America vs DD fight, only the odds are even more in Steve's favour since Ben lacks DD's superhuman abilities.Steve is better - if only slightly - in every conceivable way. Initially it will be an interesting and more or less even fight (but still leaning in Cap's favour)... but after that every swing, every blow, every moment will begin to slow and tire Ben, while Cap will remain 100%. Bronze Tiger cannot beat Captain America in a fight. He can put up a fight for the first 3-5 minutes, but Captain America's superior stats coupled with his nearly infinite stamina make him too much to handle for [b]any
street level human to legitimately take in h2h without powers or prep. [/B]
I'm assuming you don't know who Slade is and what he has in physicality. Ben has taken blows from Slade (who I feel is physically superior to Steve imo). Bronze Tiger along with the Suicide Squad has took on the Female Furies as well. Bronze Tiger even has Batman in martial arts mastery. And Ben is near Bruce in physicality and in some aspects better. As I stated before, Steve can not beat Bronze Tiger with ease. Steve may have better endurance. But even he can buckle with enough well placed and precise blows from Bronze Tiger.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
I agree with the majority Steve takes Tiger or Bruce.And Slade takes Tiger or Bruce as well.(As its been pointed out Slade was not in peak form against Tiger.)
There enhanced and there skill is close to there's.
You're wrong. Slade was 100% when he fought Bronze Tiger. I have the issue on hand. And Slade didn't just beat Ben. Ben landed some hard blows on Slade using speed and agility to counter attack, when Slade tried to throw Ben into a wall. Slade got in some shots after. But It didn't put Bronze Tiger down. Ben had Slade pined to the ground in their fight. Slade only got up 'cause Bronze Tiger was distracted. So don't tell me what I know to be fact.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
good match up.. neither is no slouch.. Bronze Tiger can certainly last against Steve.... methinks Tiger 5.5/10
Thanks man, I thinks it's a good match up as well. I agree that neither man here is a slouch. And it is not a one sided fight.
I can truly appreciate everyone's opinion and the love of an character. Because I love this outlet that KMC has where people can get together and debate over comic book characters. But some ride Steve a little too hard at times. I love Steve Rogers too. But he's not unbeatable the way some people make it seem. One would think that Batman, Daredevil, Bronze Tiger, and many others have no chance at all. And in fact that's far from the truth.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Bronze Tiger is the MAN! However, I think Steve will take the small majority. Bronze isn't enhanced, is he?
No he's not. But he's in the peak human category. Bronze Tiger is a superb martial arts master, with extensive training in martial arts. It has been stated that Ben moves with the speed and agility of an jungle cat. And Bronze Tiger had a prolonged fight with Deathstroke (even gaining the upper hand against Slade). His endurance and fighting prowess is efficient enough to hang with enhance beings the likes of Slade and Steve.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Thanks man, I thinks it's a good match up as well. I agree that neither man here is a slouch. And it is not a one sided fight.I can truly appreciate everyone's opinion and the love of an character. Because I love this outlet that KMC has where people can get together and debate over comic book characters. But some ride Steve a little too hard at times. I love Steve Rogers too. But he's not unbeatable the way some people make it seem. One would think that Batman, Daredevil, Bronze Tiger, and many others have no chance at all. And in fact that's far from the truth.
you're welcome.. i have all appearances of both Steve and Bronze Tiger.. I do wish DC would have him fight Bruce again
Originally posted by Marvelknight
No he's not. But he's in the peak human category. Bronze Tiger is a superb martial arts master, with extensive training in martial arts. It has been stated that Ben moves with the speed and agility of an jungle cat. And Bronze Tiger had a prolonged fight with Deathstroke (even gaining the upper hand against Slade). His endurance and fighting prowess is efficient enough to hang with enhance beings the likes of Slade of Steve.
Don't forget Catseye, who has enhanced stats and is a skilled MA.
Originally posted by Deadline
Damn son lowballing. Thats some cold shit, 3-5mins? Please sir can I have some more?
3-5 minutes of the fight being even, not a 3-5 minute fight. After 3-5 minutes Caps edge just grows incrementally larger until he wins. Remeber these fighters don't circle each other and throw outside jabs while looking for a take down, no, they go full bore slugfest non stop. Unless Cap allows Ben to set the pace of the fight, Ben won't be able to keep up with the pace Cap will set for more than 3-5 minutes before his reactions start to slow down.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
I'm assuming you don't know who Slade is and what he has in physicality. Ben has taken blows from Slade (who I feel is physically superior to Steve imo). Bronze Tiger along with the Suicide Squad has took on the Female Furies as well. Bronze Tiger even has Batman in martial arts mastery. And Ben is near Bruce in physicality and in some aspects better. As I stated before, Steve can not beat Bronze Tiger with ease. Steve may have better endurance. But even he can buckle with enough well placed and precise blows from Bronze Tiger.
Slade is a super soldier with mild superhuman strength who has had his ass railed by Nightwing three times. Batman or Bronze Tiger CAN NOT beat Captain America in a melee fight, epically in the octagon with UFC rules in place.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade is a super soldier with mild superhuman strength who has had his ass railed by Nightwing three times. Batman or Bronze Tiger CAN NOT beat Captain America in a melee fight, epically in the octagon with UFC rules in place.
Slade "had his ass railed by Nightwing three times". 🤨
You need to go back and take another look because Nightwing never did any more than get off a few attacks then made an escape. I have most of Nightwing's encounters with Slade. Even Dick said Slade could kill him without breaking a sweat.
And you're wrong. Bronze Tiger can beat Steve. All you are doing is underestimating one character in favor for another without probable cause. You tell me when has Bronze Tiger done so bad that he would have no chance against Steve and maybe you'll have and argument here. If this is how you debate, you would never win a case. I know what I'm taking about. There isn't nothing that I said that was a lie in this thread. And no matter how many others come and post in favor for Steve. All of my points stand uncontested. The fact remains that Bronze Tiger could beat Steve and Steve could beat him. It's not one sided as you're trying to make it. You can pull that crap with someone else. I read more than enough comic books to not fall for this kind of nonsense.
Steve.
Cap has fought similar like beings and superior to Bronze tiger h2h.
He isnt a slouch and no human olympic or peak can hold his own against Cap in a fight due to his SSS attributes..
Nightwing has also outright told Slade that Slade couldnt kill him and smirked at him when slade threaten to kill him.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Slade "had his ass railed by Nightwing three times". 🤨You need to go back and take another look because Nightwing never did any more than get off a few attacks then made an escape. I have most of Nightwing's encounters with Slade. Even Dick said Slade could kill him without breaking a sweat.
And you're wrong. Bronze Tiger can beat Steve. All you are doing is underestimating one character in favor for another without probable cause. You tell me when has Bronze Tiger done so bad that he would have no chance against Steve and maybe you'll have and argument here. If this is how you debate, you would never win a case. I know what I'm taking about. There isn't nothing that I said that was a lie in this thread. And no matter how many others come and post in favor for Steve. All of my points stand uncontested. The fact remains that Bronze Tiger could beat Steve and Steve could beat him. It's not one sided as you're trying to make it. You can pull that crap with someone else. I read more than enough comic books to not fall for this kind of nonsense.
You haven't lied but you haven't made any points that need to be contested either. All you have said is that Bronze Tiger can beat Cap... and he can't.
Since you apparently are having trouble fallowing logic and have no detective reasoning I'll make this easier on you. Who wins this hypothetical fight? Fighter A who is better than Fighter B in every conceivable way and never tires, or Fighter B? The answer is pretty f@cking clear..
Originally posted by King Castle
Steve.Cap has fought similar like beings and superior to Bronze tiger h2h.
He isnt a slouch and no human olympic or peak can hold his own against Cap in a fight due to his SSS attributes..Nightwing has also outright told Slade that Slade couldnt kill him and smirked at him when slade threaten to kill him.
Bronze Tiger has also fought against foes with enhancements. You're not saying anything relevant. And do you think I don't understand contexts? Nightwing didn't mean that Slade coiuldn't kill him because he'll kick Slade's ass. What nightwing meant was that it will be hard because Slade can't catch him and never has. So you're wrong. Sorry man but i know my stuff. You'll have to debate better than that.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
I can truly appreciate everyone's opinion and the love of an character. Because I love this outlet that KMC has where people can get together and debate over comic book characters. But some ride Steve a little too hard at times. I love Steve Rogers too. But he's not unbeatable the way some people make it seem. One would think that Batman, Daredevil, Bronze Tiger, and many others have no chance at all. And in fact that's far from the truth.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
How is Cap a better fighter than Bronze? The only real way he wins, is because of stats. And stats are overrated, so BT can get SOME wins.
Because he is considered one of the if not the best fighter in Marvel U, more skilled than several characters (Shang-Chi and Iron Fist) who themselves are more skilled than Tiger? Because he has been stated to have mastered every fighting style on panel? Because he has owned someone who had knowledge of every fighting style? Because Captain America was never owned by a pre-teen Batgirl or stalemated by Catman? Because Bronze Tiger's history is a convoluted mess, much of which isn't even canon any more?
Pick the ones you'd like.