If you do happen to find it, I'll concede the point,
Originally posted by Nihilist
Both the witer and Tom B both said he drained the OF thats why he was able to hadle Thor that well, plus hasnt Annihilus drain asgardian life/power before when he faced Thor.(you have already mentioned this in post below
I've never seen or heard Loeb saying this. Breevort said he absorbed the Odin Force in an attempt to explain Rulk's performance against Thor. That's just trying to rationalize an idiotic comic. I don't care if Rulk drained part of the Odin Force, but if he did do so, I object to the notion that Thor was actively utilizing it.
He was able to drain the life forces of regular Asgardians, so?
Originally posted by Nihilist
Iirc he only used the control rod
I'll double check soon.
Originally posted by Nihilist
He hasnt shown any problem absorbing Nova force or Quantum Energy so i dont see why he wouldnt be able to do so with the Odin force seeing as he as already drained/absorbed part of Odin power before, and he doesnt just have the Rod here he has the Q bands as well. Physically Annihilus isnt weak he was slapping arund Nova and Quasar together and that was without the Qbands.
Because I think the Odin Force is above the power Richard Rider and Quasar have available. The Quantum Bands won't help any when it comes to absorbing the Odin Force.
That's nice. We saw Annihilus -while amped- losing twice against Thor went it came down to hand to hand.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not to be taken seriously but please stay on point you always have so much trouble with that.Breevort backed it up because it's what happened on panel and was revealed later to be a part of rulk's powerset.
Schmidt also works for marvel and thanos' comics are in continuity so this leads more to believe it is canon since it was referenced in a canon book. 🙂
Andy already said it can be canon and since it's referenced in a canon book I have you all over the place.
Rulk isn't to be taken seriously, but like you said earlier on, it's still canon. It can be our little mini debate. I looked for all the threads, they were closed. If you still refuse to give me your reasoning, I'll just open up a new one.
It never happened on panel. Stop making shit up. If it happened on panel, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
So he works at Marvel, cool. Why does his word have any more weight then Breevort whose a senior editor and was directly involved in the event?
Andy said that it was up to the reader to decide according to you. You're contradicting yourself now. Like I said, a mistake.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIf you wish to search for it yourself it on CBR somewhere, not sure where it is now though.
If you do happen to find it, I'll concede the point,I've never seen or heard Loeb saying this. Breevort said he absorbed the Odin Force in an attempt to explain Rulk's performance against Thor. That's just trying to rationalize an idiotic comic. I don't care if Rulk drained part of the Odin Force, but if he did do so, I object to the notion that Thor was actively utilizing it.
He was able to drain the life forces of regular Asgardians, so?Doesnt the Odin power flow through all asgardians? thats why Odin can call upon all that power.
I'll double check soon.
Because I think the Odin Force is above the power Richard Rider and Quasar have available. The Quantum Bands won't help any when it comes to absorbing the Odin Force.Starting to absorb the whole Nova force and the Q bands with ease is nothing to be sniffed at.
That's nice. We saw Annihilus -while amped- losing twice against Thor went it came down to hand to hand.This Annihilus was far more powerful, he survived Galactus blast after taking it point blank. He one shotted Nova first off without Q bands, and when weak after losing the q bands and taking the Galactus blast he was still handling Nova(before the pis) and one shotted Phyla with a casual back hand
Originally posted by Nihilist
If you wish to search for it yourself it on CBR somewhere, not sure where it is now though.
I'm not doing that shit.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Doesnt the Odin power flow through all asgardians? thats why Odin can call upon all that power.
Each Asgardian is empowered by a portion of the Odin Force. Unfortunately, draining regular Asgardians and draining Odin are two completely different things.
Originally posted by Nihilist
I'll double check soon.
Okay, I checked. Yea, he did use machines:
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9185/annihilusequipment.jpg
His statement also leads me to believe that he thinks he would be unable to drain Odin if he were to be awake.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Starting to absorb the whole Nova force and the Q bands with ease is nothing to be sniffed at.
Sure, it's impressive, but like I said, the Odin Force > the power Nova or Quasar have access to.
Originally posted by Nihilist
This Annihilus was far more powerful,
What issue did he get his upgrade?
Originally posted by Nihilist
he survived Galactus blast after taking it point blank. He one shotted Nova first off without Q bands, and when weak after losing the q bands and taking the Galactus blast he was still handling Nova(before the pis) and one shotted Phyla with a casual back hand
You keep bringing up Nova as an example as if I'm supposed to be impressed. I'm not. Annihilus finally got a higher end durability feat under his belt. Doesn't negate his showings against Thor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusFine dont, doesnt bother me as ive seen the interview.
[B]I'm not doing that shit.
Each Asgardian is empowered by a portion of the Odin Force. Unfortunately, draining regular Asgardians and draining Odin are two completely different things.But with the Qbands aswell it gives him a better chance, after all Quasar with the bands did absorb Egos life force (something surfer was unable to do)
Okay, I checked. Yea, he did use machines:👆 fair enough
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9185/annihilusequipment.jpg
His statement also leads me to believe that he thinks he would be unable to drain Odin if he were to be awakei.IMO thats irrelevant to this match as OF Thor didnt have anything close to full Odin power, he only had a portian.
Sure, it's impressive, but like I said, the Odin Force > the power Nova or Quasar have access to.As i said above Thor didnt have all the Odin force, the whole Nova Force and Quantum Zone together wouldnt be that far from what JMS Thor showed imo.
What issue did he get his upgrade?When he got the Q bands.
You keep bringing up Nova as an example as if I'm supposed to be impressed. I'm not. Annihilus finally got a higher end durability feat under his belt. Doesn't negate his showings against Thor.Thor wouldnt have been able to casualy knock around Nova with the full Nova force or kill Quasar as easy as Annhilus did. Thor needed Odin to help him against Annihilus in the end iirc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusRulk is a serious character though and until retconned this all counts so cry me a river.
Rulk isn't to be taken seriously, but like you said earlier on, it's still canon. It can be our little mini debate. I looked for all the threads, they were closed. If you still refuse to give me your reasoning, I'll just open up a new one.It never happened on panel. Stop making shit up. If it happened on panel, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
So he works at Marvel, cool. Why does his word have any more weight then Breevort whose a senior editor and was directly involved in the event?
Andy said that it was up to the reader to decide according to you. You're contradicting yourself now. Like I said, a mistake.
It did happen on panel but wasn't directly mentioned due to rulk being mysterious but breevort cleared the air. Boom.
No, andy also works at marvel as does tom so we have conflicting opinions and a comic in continuity referencing it.
Once again. Boom.
OF Thor for the win His powers were much greater then his classic level tanking the destroyer beam that killled his classic self the bor fight that would of one shoted his classic level trashing the super skrull that owned BRB someone equal in terms of powers to classic thor. then tanking a amped stormbreaker hit.
AS for the rulk thing maybe he drained some odinpower from thor not sure in ther first battle however the nex tbattle Thor nearlly killed Rulk wjhen not holding back. plus Rulk should of been draining the odinforce again but i guess he didn't then the 3 encounter Rulk got owned yet again. and yes it seems rulk can drain cosmics powers however it is not clear how much and fast also the onlytime we see him use the power drain abilities is when he comes in contact with it or the person.
Originally posted by quanchi112LOL at you calling loebforce rulk a serious character. He punched out a watcher and killed an unkillable person.
Rulk is a serious character though and until retconned this all counts so cry me a river.It did happen on panel but wasn't directly mentioned due to rulk being mysterious but breevort cleared the air. Boom.
No, andy also works at marvel as does tom so we have conflicting opinions and a comic in continuity referencing it.
Once again. Boom.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In their first encounter, taking into account that Rulk was using Thor's own power against him, without Thor's knowledge (His energy absorbing abilities that were yet to revealed.), then I don't see the problem with that fight.In retrospect it was pretty obvious, with all the hints Loeb was giving us. Tom even further confirmed Rulk leeching Thor's powers recently. He was at the very least leeching whatever little portion of the Odin Force that was kept inside of him. Thor's blows would also make him stronger feeding him energy if I understand his power set correctly.
