Death Eaters vs Nicolas Cage

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so who kills harry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28character%29

To defeat Harry, Voldemort steals the Elder Wand from Dumbledore's tomb. It is the most powerful wand ever created, and he twice casts the Killing Curse on Harry with it. The first attempt merely stuns Harry into a death-like state. In the chapter "King's Cross", Dumbledore's spirit tells Harry that when Voldemort failed to kill baby Harry and disembodied himself, Harry became an unintentional Horcrux; Harry could not kill Voldemort while the Dark Lord's soul shard was within Harry's body. Voldemort's soul shard within Harry was destroyed because Harry willingly faced death. Voldemort's Killing Curse fails because Voldemort used Harry's blood in his resurrection. The protection that his mother gave Harry with her sacrifice tethers Harry to life, as long as his blood and her sacrifice run in the veins of Voldemort.

In the book's climax, Voldemort's second Killing Curse hurled at Harry also fails and rebounds upon himself, finally killing him, because Harry, not Voldemort, had become the Elder Wand's true master. Harry has each of the Hallows at some point in the story but never unites them. However, J. K. Rowling said the difference between Harry and Voldemort is that Harry willingly accepts mortality, making him stronger than his nemesis. "The real master of Death accepts that he must die, and that there are much worse things in the world of the living".[16] At the very end Harry decides to leave the Elder Wand in Dumbledore's tomb and the Resurrection Stone hidden in the forest but keeps the Invisibility Cloak because it belonged to his father.

Hey, uh, RJ? You do know that
A: Death Eaters are evil and make Cage become GR
B: He cant change back AT ALL until he is out of their prescence, its part of his contract and what the Spirit does
C:Therefore Imperio to change him back wont work, and he cant Pennance Glare himself

Originally posted by Pwned
Hey, uh, RJ? You do know that
A: Death Eaters are evil and make Cage become GR
B: He cant change back AT ALL until he is out of their prescence, its part of his contract and what the Spirit does
C:Therefore Imperio to change him back wont work, and he cant Pennance Glare himself

But alas, the death eaters "cannot apparate out of the house." Lame. What is preventing them from apparating out of the house?

The fact that they want to take out GR before he hunts them down and uses Penance Glare before they can kill to many innocents.
And GR needs no food, no water. The desert wont kill him unless he becomes human again, which Mephisto would probably prevent or something. It would take a while, certainly.

Harry Potter is death spelled and his soul goes to the beyond.

That should be in Part 2 because there's a huge sequence where Harry is in the afterlife and he has to "choose" to go back.

First of all, hasn't happened yet. Second of all, how does this prove that the death spell attacks the soul directly?

Originally posted by Nephthys
First of all, hasn't happened yet. Second of all, how does this prove that the death spell attacks the soul directly?

First of all, this thread will exist when the film comes out. Ignoring the events that will occur in the film is only something that you can do for a few more months (It comes out in July. You can read the synopsis for the movie, already.)

Second of all, where did I say it did that the death spell attacks the soul, directly?

Additionally, we know for a fact that it removes the soul: Harry's Parents and a few others' souls were stuck in Volde's wand when their wands' magic clashed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28character%29

To defeat Harry, Voldemort steals the Elder Wand from Dumbledore's tomb. It is the most powerful wand ever created, and he twice casts the Killing Curse on Harry with it. The first attempt merely stuns Harry into a death-like state. In the chapter "King's Cross", Dumbledore's spirit tells Harry that when Voldemort failed to kill baby Harry and disembodied himself, Harry became an unintentional Horcrux; Harry could not kill Voldemort while the Dark Lord's soul shard was within Harry's body. Voldemort's soul shard within Harry was destroyed because Harry willingly faced death. Voldemort's Killing Curse fails because Voldemort used Harry's blood in his resurrection. The protection that his mother gave Harry with her sacrifice tethers Harry to life, as long as his blood and her sacrifice run in the veins of Voldemort.

In the book's climax, Voldemort's second Killing Curse hurled at Harry also fails and rebounds upon himself, finally killing him, because Harry, not Voldemort, had become the Elder Wand's true master. Harry has each of the Hallows at some point in the story but never unites them. However, J. K. Rowling said the difference between Harry and Voldemort is that Harry willingly accepts mortality, making him stronger than his nemesis. "The real master of Death accepts that he must die, and that there are much worse things in the world of the living".[16] At the very end Harry decides to leave the Elder Wand in Dumbledore's tomb and the Resurrection Stone hidden in the forest but keeps the Invisibility Cloak because it belonged to his father.

so this happens in Deathly Hallows, part 2???

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so this happens in Deathly Hallows, part 2???

Yes sir. 👆

Confusing as ****, isn't it? 🙁

That's because all of that shit happens over the course of many chapters so it gets confusing if you condense it all down to one paragraph, like that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes sir. 👆

Confusing as ****, isn't it? 🙁

That's because all of that shit happens over the course of many chapters so it gets confusing if you condense it all down to one paragraph, like that.

it should come off well onscreen

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so this happens in Deathly Hallows, part 2???

First of all, this thread will exist when the film comes out. Ignoring the events that will occur in the film is only something that you can do for a few more months (It comes out in July. You can read the synopsis for the movie, already.)

Second of all, where did I say it did that the death spell attacks the soul, directly?

Additionally, we know for a fact that it removes the soul: Harry's Parents and a few others' souls were stuck in Volde's wand when their wands' magic clashed.

It isn't out yet, and until it is we can't be sure that scene'll actually take place. I mean, it wouldn't be the first film based on a novel that completely screwed with the ending.

You replyed to my question of whether it did by saying that Harry's soul was affected by Voldemorts attack. How is that not saying that?

Those were souls? I don't think so, they were merely representations of Volde's victims as per prioi incantatum, iirc.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It isn't out yet, and until it is we can't be sure that scene'll actually take place. I mean, it wouldn't be the first film based on a novel that completely screwed with the ending.

So they are going to remove the part where Harry is killed, goes to the spirit world, converses with various people, and figures out how to kill Voldemort?

It's possible, but extremely unlikely that they'd take out the turning point in the film.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You replyed to my question of whether it did by saying that Harry's soul was affected by Voldemorts attack. How is that not saying that?

Because I never said or implied that they attack the soul. They don't. That's exactly NOT what they do. They certainly keep the soul in tact and nothing adverse happens to the soul. However, we can't say the same of the body.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Those were souls? I don't think so, they were merely representations of Volde's victims as per prioi incantatum, iirc.

I thought they were souls because of the disembodied, ethereal, transparent, with reverse wispy voices.

Bodies were in one place, these forms which you say are not ghosts, are in another physical location. Those aren't souls, eh? So what could they possibly be?

It took a lot for me not to respond with something very smartassed. pained

When Gary Oldmen gets hit, we see his essense(soul?) leave him, no? Soul sounds like the best explanation.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the spell removes the soul from the living, yes?

The pro-argument for Ghost Rider is that he's outside the scope of what the spells work on.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeppers.

is it all part of the climax towards the end?

In the books it is.

Originally posted by Robtard
When Gary Oldmen gets hit, we see his essense(soul?) leave him, no? Soul sounds like the best explanation.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the spell removes the soul from the living, yes?

The pro-argument for Ghost Rider is that he's outside the scope of what the spells work on.

In the books, yes, the death spell literally removes the soul from the body. In the movies, when Sirius is hit by one, he falls back through that archway that Harry and Luna were hearing voices from. Not sure exactly what happened there.

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Or the Death Eaters all become frightened of Nicolas Cage's insanity and cower in a corner. This gives him time to become Ghost Rider. 😂

Nicolas Cage from Leaving Las Vegas challenges them all to a drinking contest and pwns all of em.

Nicolas Cage from "Kick-Ass" just shoots them all.

Nicolas Cage from "Deadfall" and "Vampire's Kiss" makes them fall down into convulsive WTF laughter.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Nicolas Cage from "Kick-Ass" just shoots them all.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Nicolas Cage from "Deadfall" and "Vampire's Kiss" makes them fall down into convulsive WTF laughter.

True dat.