Originally posted by srankmissingninWhen Amadeus Cho uses his foot to kick a tank shell, go ahead and make that analogy again. Calculative ability notwithstanding, no street-leveller is kicking/slapping away fired tank shells around with their feet/fists. Naturally, your definition of PIS = IDLI, IDH. It did happen. Get over it.
The tank shell kick is an Amadeus Choi-esq calculation feat courtesy of the battle computer, or baring that PIS.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
When Amadeus Cho uses his foot to kick a tank shell, go ahead and make that analogy again. Calculative ability notwithstanding, no street-leveller is kicking/slapping away fired tank shells around with their feet/fists. Naturally, your definition of PIS = IDLI, IDH. It did happen. Get over it.
Dude, wipe your slobber of Midnighter's nuts and think objectively for a moment.
The strength required for Midnighter to redirect a tank shell, is significantly above anything Midnighter has demonstrated in close to 200 appearances. He hasn't done anything else in the same ball park. That makes it PIS. It's not a great mystery or anything. I mean ask a mod if you are really so confused by what PIS entails.
And Cho wouldn't have kicked it, he would have flicked a rock at it or something and accomplished the same thing. 😎
Anyone here think Hawkeye one arming that car wasn't PIS? Or do we just let the most impressive feat circumvent all of continuity now?
Originally posted by srankmissingninOther than curbstomping apart Gamorran supersoldiers (who demolish buildings and race Apollo) before they even know what's happening. Other than being kicked across the landscape by the rogue Doctor. Other than his double actually beating up on Apollo. Other than tearing a train rail from tracks and killing mutated super-zombies with it.
Dude, wipe your slobber of Midnighter's nuts and think objectively for a moment.Anyway, the strength required for Midnighter to redirect a tank shell, is [b]significantly
above anything Midnighter has demonstrated in close to 200 appearances. He hasn't done anything else in the same ball park. That makes it PIS. It's not a great mystery or anything. I mean ask a mod if you are really so confused by what PIS entails.And Cho wouldn't have kicked it, he would have flicked a rock at it or something and accomplished the same thing.[/B]
Cho can flick a pebble and redirect a tank shell. Cho ain't flicking a pebble which will redirect the shell directly back at the tanks. And Cho ain't using a headbutt, a five-finger slap, or a heel kick to do it either. Get your head out of the dark part of your rear-end plz.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude, wipe your slobber of Midnighter's nuts and think objectively for a moment.
You don't know the meaning of the word. Maybe I should post the scans of you arguing that DS didn't beat Batman if you wanna be like that.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The strength required for Midnighter to redirect a tank shell, is [b]significantly above anything Midnighter has demonstrated in close to 200 appearances. He hasn't done anything else in the same ball park. That makes it PIS. It's not a great mystery or anything. I mean ask a mod if you are really so confused by what PIS entails.And Cho wouldn't have kicked it, he would have flicked a rock at it or something and accomplished the same thing. 😎 [/B]
It obvoulsy had something to do with skill, but theres nothing to suggest that a significant amout of strength couldn't go into it. Hell he did spit a tooth through a concrete pillar, can't see DS doing that.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Other than curbstomping apart Gamorran supersoldiers before they even know what's happening. Other than being kicked across the landscape by the rogue Doctor. Other than his double actually beating up on Apollo. Other than tearing a train rail from tracks and killing mutated super-zombies with it.Cho can flick a pebble and redirect a tank shell. Cho ain't flicking a pebble which will redirect the shell directly back at the tanks. And Cho ain't using a headbutt, a five-finger slap, or a heel kick to do it either. Get your head out of your dark part of your rear-end plz.
And which of those things do you think is even REMOTELY in the same ball park as redirecting a tank shell? Killing a Gamorran soldier? The have flight speed and energy blasts, and get killed in scores by everyone in Wildstorm. Tanking a kick isn't a strength feat, and Punisher has eaten worse attacks then that and kept fighting. Apollo has been over powered by horses, and Midnighters double is not Midnighter. Up rooting and bending a rail road track (which I already mentioned) is a class 2 strength feat. Thank you for the list of things that don't even remotely validate the feat currently in question...
Seriously try harder. This is like me justifying Wolverine eating a nuke because he one shotted Rogue with a pressure point.
^ Gamorran supersoldiers who fly through buildings demolishing them and race Apollo and Midnighter kills them before they can even react.
Punisher has never been kicked by the rogue Doctor across a landscape and softly asked the Carrier to open a door before he splatters into a mountainside. Of course, an exact duplicate of Midnighter exhibiting enhanced strength has no bearing on what Midnighter's strength is. Genius. Daredevil isn't tearing up railroad tracks anytime soon to fight Bullseye.
Again, tell your bunghole to release its grip around your head, plz.
Originally posted by Deadline*waiting for srankmissingnin to suggest that Cho can spit his tooth out to shatter a concrete pillar because somehow that's a calculation feat and not a strength feat OR it's just PIS... again*
Hell he did spit a tooth through a concrete pillar, can't see DS doing that.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
*waiting for srankmissingnin to suggest that Cho can spit his tooth out to shatter a concrete pillar because somehow that's a calculation feat and not a strength feat OR it's just PIS... again*
Cho would find the weak spot in the pillar Karnak style and destroy it with his tooth. 😎
Did he completely disemember a robot by flicking a coin at it?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
and Punisher has eaten worse attacks then that and kept fighting.
This is interesting.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Apollo has been over powered by horses,
and the lowballing begins.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Up rooting and bending a rail road track (which I already mentioned) is a class 2 strength feat. Thank you for the list of things that don't even remotely validate the feat currently in question...
Maybe it is, care to prove that?
Originally posted by srankmissingninSeriously try harder. This is like me justifying Wolverine eating a nuke because he one shotted Rogue with a pressure point.
I dunno Nuke >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tank shell?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cho would find the weak spot in the pillar Karnak style and destroy it with his tooth. 😎Did he completely disemember a robot by flicking a coin at it?
If it is true you might have a case. However it seems to me that MN does have other strength feats.
Originally posted by srankmissingninAre you seriously suggesting that his feat had to do with Midnighter calculating the exact trajectory and weakpoint of it so that a tap by a tooth would shatter it?
Cho would find the weak spot in the pillar Karnak style and destroy it with his tooth.Did he completely disemember a robot by flicking a coin at it?
facepalm
Like how a normal street leveler can somehow flick a tankshell back into a tank with his finger as long as he knew exactly when and how to flick it?
facepalmx2
Post the bullet-tooth feat. Then have someone call a proctologist for you. You've got head-in-butt emergency.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are you seriously suggesting that his feat had to do with Midnighter calculating the exact trajectory and weakpoint of it so that a tap by a tooth would shatter it?facepalm
Like how a normal street leveler can somehow flick a tankshell back into a tank with his finger as long as he knew exactly when and how to flick it?
facepalmx2
Post the bullet-tooth feat. Then have someone call a proctologist. We've got head-in-butt emergency here.
To be fair did Cho do that feat?
Originally posted by Deadline
This is interesting.and the lowballing begins.
Maybe it is, care to prove that?
I dunno Nuke >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tank shell?
If it is true you might have a case. However it seems to me that MN does have other strength feats.
The point was that Apollo's strength varies depending on his exposure to the sun. Apollo is closer to Rogue / Ms. Marvel levels than he is superman.
A rail road track is a piece of steel (or carbon steel alloy if it is newer), it couldn't possibly take more than class 2 strength to bend it.
Obviously a nuke > tank shell, my point was the examples brought up were of no relevance to supporting Midnighter's ability to redirect a tank shell.
Originally posted by srankmissingninThe answer is, Midnighter can kick fired tank shells in mid-flight right back into tanks. Because that's what happened.
They are both nonsensical feats of Midnighter of Battle Computer, or they are PSI. Pick the answer you like the most and move one.
Battle computer isn't going to find a magical mechanical design flaw in a tank shell whereby the application of a boot will completely redirect the tank shell 180 degrees back to its source. Midnighter isn't Karnak. And him spitting his tooth and shattering a concrete pillar has nothing to do with an Inhuman/Karate Kid-esque ability.
PIS =/= IDLI, IDH. Midnighter has enhanced strength. Get over it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The answer is, Midnighter can kick fired tank shells in mid-flight right back into tanks. Because that's what happened.Battle computer isn't going to find a magical mechanical design flaw in a tank shell whereby the application of a boot will completely redirect the tank shell 180 degrees back to its source. Midnighter isn't Karnak. And him spitting his tooth and shattering a concrete pillar has nothing to do with an Inhuman/Karate Kid-esque ability.
PIS =/= IDLI, IDH. Midnighter has enhanced strength. Get over it.
So basicly you have decided to chose PIS. Great, now that you have decided they don't matter and are inconsequential we can move on.
Both feats are inconsistent with the portrayal of Midnighter's strength by a large margin, and are therefor PIS. That is just how it is. Forum rules, take it up with a mod if you don't like it, or don't understand what PIS is.
Originally posted by srankmissingninCry more about this feat:
So basicly you have decided to chose PIS. Great, now that you have decided they don't matter and are inconsequential we can move on.Both feats are inconsistent with the portrayal of Midnighter's strength by a large margin, and are therefor PIS. That is just how it is. Forum rules, take it up with a mod if you don't like it, or don't understand what PIS is.
Cry some more. After all, your whole "well-maybe-the-tank-shell-had-a-serious-defect-that-could-be-taken-advantage-of-in-a-Cho-Karnak-KK-like-manner" excuse didn't pan out.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cry more about this feat:Cry some more.
Says the guy bent out of shape because he can't use an example of PIS.
Fact: Midnighter history doesn't have any evidence to support he is nearly enough to redirect a tank shell. Fact: Midnighter has a quantum computer that runs millions of scenarios a minute. My Theory: Midnighter's battle computer calculated the exact spot to hit the shell to redirect it. Your Theory: I guess this one example completely over rules everything else!!!! Notice how my theories in line with the facts, and yours isn't? That is because I adapt my theories to suit facts, and you twist facts to suit theories.
Originally posted by srankmissingninYour transparent attempt to act like the shoe is on the other foot is pointless.
Says the guy bent out of shape because he can't use an example of PIS.Fact: Midnighter history doesn't have any evidence to support he is nearly enough to redirect a tank shell. Fact: Mighter has a quantum computer that runs millions of scenarios a minute. Theory: Midnighter's battle computer calculated the exact spot to hit the shell to redirect it. Notice how my theories in line with the facts, and yours isn't? That is because I adapt my theories to suit facts, and you twist facts to suit theories.
Fact: He does. I listed several of them. Just because your butt-hurt over them doesn't mean you can bleed your butt all over this thread.
Oh wait. It's a free country. Because somehow, in your deluded mind...
Cho can slap away a tank shell with his bare hand.
Punisher can be kicked across a landscape and not be bothered.
Cap can kill Gamorran supersoliders that demolish buildings and races across the world in seconds before he even blinks.
Daredevil tears apart railroad tracks to beat up Luke Cage.
Batman can spit his tooth out with the force of a bullet shattering a concrete pillar.
Somehow an exact duplicate of Midnighter beating up Apollo, was only beating him up when Apollo was at his utter weakest despite nothing being so suggested and somehow, being an exact duplicate illustrates nothing about Midnighter's own strength anyway.
The only thing being twisted here is your panties. Get over the fact that Midnighter has enhanced strength. Seriously. And get a mop for all your butt-blood that has seeped all over the floor, plz.
