Cassandra Cain Vs Midnighter

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fact: He does. I listed several of them. Just because your butt-hurt over them doesn't mean you can bleed your butt all over this thread.

You haven't listed a single thing that is even REMOTELY in the same ball park as Midnighter redirecting a tank shell... hell, the majority of the stuff you mentioned wasn't even strength feats. I don't blame you for coming up lacking, I know as well as you that the feats suggestion Midnighter has the strength to redirect a missile don't exist.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cho can slap away a tank shell with his bare hand.

Cho is a gentleman, he would use a pebble or something... maybe Herc's mace. 😎

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Punisher can be kicked across a landscape and not be bothered.

He can and has.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap can kill Gamorran supersoliders that demolish buildings and races across the world in seconds before he even blinks.

Yes.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Daredevil tears apart railroad tracks to beat up Luke Cage.

Probably wouldn't beat up Luke Cage with it, maybe Hyde or something, but tearing up a rail road track isn't much of a stretch.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Batman can spit his tooth out with the force of a bullet shattering a concrete pillar.

The only unlikely example you came up with! Pat yourself of on the back and treat your self to a tasty soda. You've earned it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Somehow an exact duplicate of Midnighter beating up Apollo, was only beating him up when Apollo was at his utter weakest despite nothing being so suggested and somehow, being an exact duplicate illustrates nothing about Midnighter's own strength anyway.

Who are you talking about? Last Call or one of Bendix' Zombie Clones...

Midnighter has enhanced strength. No one has suggested otherwise. He has Class 2 strength, a level of strength that is incapable of redirecting tank shells.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Cho is a gentleman, he would use a pebble or something... maybe Herc's mace. 😎

You don't know that, he did it to a robot with a serious design flaw. The tank shell and the concrete didn't...see where we are going with this?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

He can and has.

I don't think he has actually, when did this happen?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Probably wouldn't beat up Luke Cage with it, maybe Hyde or something, but tearing up a rail road track isn't much of a stretch.

Because its made out of a steel alloy?

Frankly, why we are even having a discussion about why a dozen class two strength feats don't validate the existence of a single class 50-100 strength feat is beyond me.

^ Because that list of feats isn't street level class two strength feats, genius. And kicking a tank shell is not a class 50-100 strength feat. If he was just a Thing-like brick, yes, enormous strength can accoutn for that.

Midnighter has enhanced strength and speed. We're belaboring the obvious. Of course he has enhanced strength and speed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Because that list of feats isn't street level class two strength feats, genius. And kicking a tank shell is not a class 50-100 strength feat. If he was just a Thing-like brick, yes, enormous strength can accoutn for that.

Midnighter has enhanced strength and speed. We're belaboring the obvious. [b]Of course he has enhanced strength and speed. [/B]

We just don't think he needs a battle computer to do it.

Originally posted by Deadline
You don't know that, he did it to a robot with a serious design flaw. The tank shell and the concrete didn't...see where we are going with this?

I don't think he has actually, when did this happen?

Because its made out of a steel alloy?

I think Cho can calculations allow him to do anything as long as it is even remotely possible. You ever see that episode of Fridge, where the guy can calculate any possible outcome and orchestrates bus accidents by simply leaving a pen on a mail box? It's like that.

Remember when Spidey was mind controlled? It is pretty much the same except Frank is being tossed vertically instead of horizontally, which if anything is worse. Not to mention he landed hard on the side of a roof before falling off a skyscraper again.

Yes?

^ But Cho isn't slapping away bullets with his finger anytime soon, now is he? Good job painting yourself into this corner. Butt-blood stillneeds cleaning up.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cho is a gentleman, he would use a pebble or something... maybe Herc's mace.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He can and has.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Probably wouldn't beat up Luke Cage with it, maybe Hyde or something, but tearing up a rail road track isn't much of a stretch.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The only unlikely example you came up with! Pat yourself of on the back and treat your self to a tasty soda. You've earned it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Because that list of feats isn't street level class two strength feats, genius. And kicking a tank shell is not a class 50-100 strength feat. If he was just a Thing-like brick, yes, enormous strength can accoutn for that.

I know they weren't class two feats. One was suspect speed feat. One was a durability feat. One was a class two strength. And one was a feat that belonged to someone else.

^ I can't even keep track of your witless arguments anymore. Thanks for the moving the goalposts again.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Cho can calculations allow him to do anything as long as it is even remotely possible. You ever see that episode of Fridge, where the guy can calculate any possible outcome and orchestrates bus accidents by simply leaving a pen on a mail box? It's like that.

You think but you don't have any proof. You only have one example of him doing it to something with a design flaw. The tank shell and the concrete didn't have design flaws.

You are speculating.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Remember when Spidey was mind controlled? It is pretty much the same except Frank is being tossed vertically instead of horizontally, which if anything is worse. Not to mention he landed hard on the side of a roof before falling off a skyscraper again.

He had his shield on his back when he first landed, then he landed on his face and it hurt alot.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Yes?

I think steel alloys have varying strength, if this was a train track from the future its was probably more durable.

This is hilarious.

"It's PIS...or his skill, or something, I don't care about physics...whatever the case it doesn't count!".

Originally posted by Deadline
You think but you don't have any proof. You only have one example of him doing it to something with a design flaw. The tank shell and the concrete didn't have design flaws.

You are speculating.

*plugs in butt-blood comment anyway*

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ But Cho isn't slapping away bullets with his finger anytime soon, now is he? Good job painting yourself into this corner. Butt-blood stillneeds cleaning up. Cho isn't flicking a pebble to find the serious mechanical design flaw that will somehow make a tank shell turn around 180 degrees back into a tank. Change the trajectory so it misses him by a narrow margin and then the shrapnel does something zany? Sure. To make it go right back at the tank at the point of impact? No. Your intentional (and laughable) butchering of Cho's capabilities to cast doubt into Midnighter's clear-as-day feat is transparent. Punisher has never been kicked in the face and flung across a landscape horizontally so fast and so hard that hundreds of yeards away he's about to be splattered by a mountainside. Again, thanks for your abject and arbitrary denial of reality. Your abject and arbitrary denial has reached retard-levels. Cap can't while standing right in front of him, destroy a foe with his fists that can demolish buildings and race across the world in seconds... and do it in a blink of an eye. Abject and arbitrary denial has been tempered, but no. DD ain't tearing apart steel railroad tracks to beat up Power Man.
Thanks for the thinly veiled insult which is a desperate attempt to avoid having to confront the fact that Midnighter does have strength feats which you cannot deny support what Midnighter did. Cute, but desperate.

Which of these hopeless denials do you feel haven't already been addressed?

^ Srank should I dig up the post were you tried to argue that DS didn't beat Batman in h2h despite the fact he was standing over Batman who facedown on the floor for three panels?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I can't even keep track of your witless arguments anymore. Thanks for the moving the goalposts again.

I'm not sure how I can be any clearer, your inability to comprehend seems like a personal problem... but I will give it another go I guess:

Blitzing a nameless canon fodder who get killed in scores by everyone in Wildstorm? Not a strength feat.

Getting kicked a hundred yards? Not a strength feat.

Up rooting a rail rood track? A strength feat... but not one in the same realm as redirecting a missile.

Midnighter's clone fighting Apollo? Not Midnighter's feat, and if it was it still wouldn't be a confirmation of the strength need to accomplish the tank feat.

Originally posted by Deadline
^ Srank should I dig up the post were you tried to argue that DS didn't beat Batman in h2h despite the fact he was standing over Batman who facedown on the floor for three panels?

He didn't beat him, he knocked him over... and then he ran away. Batman was hurt but he wasn't finished.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Which of these hopeless denials do you feel haven't already been addressed?

Cho can't slap artillery shells away with his fingers. Punisher can't have his face kicked and sent flying across a landscape unphased. Cap can't kill building-demolishing, supersonic++ flying metas with his fists instantly. DD can't rip apart steel train tracks with his bare hands. Batman can't spit out his teeth and shatter concrete columns.

Midnighter can.

Acting like all of the above has nothing... NOTHING to do with a level of strength that sets him above run-of-the-mill street levelers? Suffice it to say:

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
This is hilarious.

"It's PIS...or his skill, or something, I don't care about physics...whatever the case it doesn't count!".

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
They've all been addressed by Wolverithmetics. Somehow, someway, Wolverine butt-hurt must have gotten involved in this arbitrary denial.

Cho can't slap artillery shells away with his fingers. Punisher can't have his face kicked and sent flying across a landscape unphased. Cap can't kill building-demolishing, supersonic++ flying metas with his fists instantly. DD can't rip apart steel train tracks with his bare hands. Batman can't spit out his teeth and shatter concrete columns.

Midnighter can.

Acting like none of the above has anything to do with a level of strength that sets him above street levelers is, suffice to say, retarded.

Yes, Batman can't spit his tooth through a pillar. 1 for 5, nice work.

Again, nothing above class 2 except for the missile kick... which is why it is PIS.

^ Right... because street-levelers can get kicked across landscapes unphased, street-levelers can kill building-demolishing, supersonic++ flying supersoldiers with their fists instantaneously, street-levelers rip up steel train railings, exact duplicates of stree-levelers pound on Superman-level beings.

Astounding denial rationale. 👆

Since this involves Midnighter, I'd daresay your arguments are sourced in either (i) homophobia, (ii) DC-haterade, or (iii) the usual "if-its-not-Wolverine-it-sucks" attitude:

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pick the answer you like the most and move one.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He didn't beat him, he knocked him over... and then he ran away. Batman was hurt but he wasn't finished.

Batman was on the floor for several panels, while DS spoke to him. This means he couldn't get up ( at least TKO) and DS could have finished him off, if Batman had attempted to get to his feet its most likely a foregone conclusion he would have lost.

You dont have to be out cold for 15 mins for it to be a win. According to your logic a guy could be out for 5 mins and if he attempts to get up and the guy runs away its not a win.