Eternals versus The New Gods

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CIS OFF

New Gods
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Darkseid
Granny Goodness
Big Barda
Orion
Mister Miracle

Eternals
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Thanos
Ikaris
Gilgamesh
Sersi
Hyperion

Hyperion is an eternal?

While the Eternals has the slight high card is thanos the New gods have more power overall easily.

New gods 9/10.

Originally posted by Deadline
Hyperion is an eternal?

???

Yeah, Hyperion is an alternate universe Eternal, as revealed in Gru's Quasar.

The last survivor of his world's Eternals.

Originally posted by Desaad
Yeah, Hyperion is an alternate universe Eternal, as revealed in Gru's Quasar.

The last survivor of his world's Eternals.

Meh different versions then.

It just came out of Gru's desire to connect everything, and I thought it was a pretty interesting and cool retcon.

He wrote the definitive Squadron Supreme story, regardless, so if anyone had the right, it was he.

I didn't know this Desaad.. good find. Happen to have any scans?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
While the Eternals has the slight high card is thanos the New gods have more power overall easily.

New gods 9/10.

How does:

Darkseid, Granny Goodness, Big Barda, Orion, Mister Miracle

Have more overall power than:

Thanos, Ikaris, Gilgamesh, Sersi, Hyperion???

Especially when Thanos is upgraded and DS loses to Superman (at times) and the New Gods team has Mister Miracle??

Eternals 10/10. :-/

As to this battle, assuming average portrayals for the New Gods (ie, not true form/fully manifested/Final Crisis versions of Darkseid and Granny)...

The Eternals take it pretty handily.

Thanos, on average, has the slight edge against Darkseid as he normally 'manifests' on earth, Orion will defeat either Hyperion or Gilgamesh but it won't be a steam role, Sersi is more powerful than Barda, Mister Miracle will I'm sure perform admirably but is outpowered by EVERYONE here and by a significant margin and Granny Goodness, again outside of true form manifestation (like when she defeated the Greek Gods or took over Kraken's body), isn't as powerful as anyone on the Eternals team.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I didn't know this Desaad.. good find. Happen to have any scans?

Nah, it wasn't really anything huge. Hyperion and Makkari were talking one day and Makkari (and I think Ikaris?) sort of figured it out.

I don't rightly know if it's even been picked up on since.

I don't think BB read the stips. I think he (like me initially) thot ALL the NGs vs ALL the Eternals (wherein I would agree that the NG has more overall power).

Bloody retcons.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I don't think BB read the stips. I think he (like me initially) thot ALL the NGs vs ALL the Eternals (wherein I would agree that the NG has more overall power).

Right. In addition, it's worth noting that the technology of the New Gods is significantly greater in power and versatility than that which we have seen of the Eternals.

But that has little/nothing to do here. And this matchup was essentially terrible.

A better lineup for the New Gods might have been....

Darkseid
Orion
Lightray
Kalibak
Barda

Originally posted by Desaad
Right. In addition, it's worth noting that the technology of the New Gods is significantly greater in power and versatility than that which we have seen of the Eternals.

But that has little/nothing to do here. And this matchup was essentially terrible.

A better lineup for the New Gods might have been....

Darkseid
Orion
Lightray
Kalibak
Barda

eternals

Originally posted by Deadline
Bloody retcons.

Well, what was his origin before? More of a direct Superman rip off, as I recall, save for the fact that he was rocketed away from...another dimension?

I thought it was a fun one.

There have been so many iterations of the character at this point, though -- the Superman knock off from another universe, the evil one created by the Grandmaster, King Hyperion, Supreme Power Hyperion, even Paradise X Hyperion -- he's a bit of a mess.

Jeff Parker is doing something fun in Thunderbolts as well, and I'm anxious to see where that one goes.

Originally posted by Desaad
Well, what was his origin before? More of a direct Superman rip off, as I recall, save for the fact that he was rocketed away from...another dimension?

I thought it was a fun one.

There have been so many iterations of the character at this point, though -- the Superman knock off from another universe, the evil one created by the Grandmaster, King Hyperion, Supreme Power Hyperion, even Paradise X Hyperion -- he's a bit of a mess.

Jeff Parker is doing something fun in Thunderbolts as well, and I'm anxious to see where that one goes.

*shrug*

Moonstones gonna be all over Hyp.

Hyperion should be call Retconion instead! 😄

One of the things that I've always found interesting about Hyperion is that to my knowledge there is no true 616 version. That's pretty bemusing considering the fact that various versions of the character got a fair amount of panel time in the 616 (or used to).