Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman is far more durable than the Silver Surfer. The SS has probably the worst glass jaw in the history of top tier heroes. Thanos is NOT 2 or 3 shotting Superman. In fact, from what I can tell, Superman seems MORE DURABLE than Thanos.Here’s how well Thanos did with an artificially created MINI-BLACK HOLE.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/ThanosBlackHole1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/ThanosBlackHole2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/ThanosBlackHole3.jpg
Survived it, but not exactly in peak condition after.
Here’s a much weaker than current Superman dealing with traveling through a wormhole, two black holes connected.
And here’s Superman at a higher level of power than in the previous scans, but still less powerful than currently, dealing with a “double black hole” apparently.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
Both times he’s uninjured and fine.
Here’s Superman CONTAINING a black hole in his hands, keeping it from expanding.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=JLA07719.jpg
Now, I'm not claiming Superman > Thanos. But I am claiming this TEAM would absolutely curbstomp Thanos.
See, I have a big problem with Thanos scans. Is he ever shown inside the Black Hole? At the very least does it say anywhere that he was inside or how he got out?
If the answer is no, then maybe he just resisited its pull long enough for it to close.
He did resist it long enough to close. It was a mini black hole that opened for a second and then closed immediately.
But it's irrelevant to his feats of durability against named foes. Surfer has fought in the center of black holes to -- hell, he's created them -- but it doesn't translate to him being more durable than Thanos, or being able to hurt Thanos.
Green Lanterns regularly travel through black holes, have sealed them on multiple occasions. But I wouldn't bet on one being able to beat Thanos either.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Could you please post for me the relevant scans or quote for me where it says that Drax became at Meta in Annilation?
It occurs prior to An. In the 4 issue limited Drax the Destroyer
Basically, Drax comes to earth, gets intelligent, dies, comes back by breaking through the husk of his former corpse and says, straight up, he isn't fully "restored", specifically mentioning "energy stuff". It seems he starts the transformation before he dies, as he begins getting intelligent and has serious head pains. The best theory for why it may have happened is that Drax drank a toxic chemical from the warp drive of a crashed space ship.
Drax 1
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8688/drax01019.jpg
Drax 2
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2111/drax02005.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8861/drax02009.jpg
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5724/drax02019.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4127/drax02022.jpg
Drax 3
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5629/drax03009.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6427/drax03012.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8554/drax03015.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9711/drax03016.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6807/drax03021.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8742/drax03022.jpg
Just providing the scans, I have no opinion about where Drax sits in any ranking of power levels.
Originally posted by paisapower
Wasnt the maker going through a mental breakdown and because of that severely compromised ?
She was insane and limited to a physical form. I don't see how that affects her power output or how it makes Thanos' feat less impressive.
Originally posted by Desaad
Who did the Maker beat as the Maker? Because from what I saw she got taken out by Oracle, a relatively low level telepath.
She didn't have too many showings to have a decent feat on her own. All that I know of her doing is causing chaos on planet Kyln. Regardless, Gladiator's comment still stands.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman is far more durable than the Silver Surfer. The SS has probably the worst glass jaw in the history of top tier heroes. Thanos is NOT 2 or 3 shotting Superman. In fact, from what I can tell, Superman seems MORE DURABLE than Thanos.Here’s how well Thanos did with an artificially created MINI-BLACK HOLE.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/ThanosBlackHole1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/ThanosBlackHole2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/ThanosBlackHole3.jpg
Survived it, but not exactly in peak condition after.
Here’s a much weaker than current Superman dealing with traveling through a wormhole, two black holes connected.
And here’s Superman at a higher level of power than in the previous scans, but still less powerful than currently, dealing with a “double black hole” apparently.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
Both times he’s uninjured and fine.
Here’s Superman CONTAINING a black hole in his hands, keeping it from expanding.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=JLA07719.jpg
Now, I'm not claiming Superman > Thanos. But I am claiming this TEAM would absolutely curbstomp Thanos.
The black hole was 2 light years wide......do you know how big that is? That's a super massive black hole. According to Nasa and other estimates our solar system in terms of light years is approx 1/200th to 1/400th of a light year
That black hole Thanos tanked could swallow 400 to 800 solar systems if my math is right.
What's even crazier is that black holes in nature can actually get much bigger than that. The biggest black hole found in the universe has the mass of 50 billion suns!
But for Thanos to tank a black hole that could swallow 400 to 800 solar systems is impressive to me.
Originally posted by vince_slice
The black hole was 2 light years wide......do you know how big that is? That's a super massive black hole. According to Nasa and other estimates our solar system in terms of light years is approx 1/200th to 1/400th of a light yearThat black hole Thanos tanked could swallow 400 to 800 solar systems if my math is right.
What's even crazier is that black holes in nature can actually get much bigger than that. The biggest black hole found in the universe has the mass of 50 billion suns!
But for Thanos to tank a black hole that could swallow 400 to 800 solar systems is impressive to me.
This is comics, though. I've seen Green Lanterns seal black holes that are capable of destroying entire sectors. 1/3600 of a universe. Do I need to delve into the math of how many GALAXIES that would be?
And that's not just taking. That's SEALING it.
Originally posted by Desaad
This is comics, though. I've seen Green Lanterns seal black holes that are capable of destroying entire sectors. 1/3600 of a universe. Do I need to delve into the math of how many GALAXIES that would be?And that's not just taking. That's SEALING it.
Okay I agree that is pretty ridiculous.
Originally posted by King Castle
get the chalk boards out and get ready to dedicate your life at explaining it in the forum 🤣
But seriously how do you draw valid comparisons between superman tanking a black hole the size of a basket ball and Thanos tanking a black hole 2 light years wide?
I mean clearly they're different in scope, size, and power. To just equalize them and say Superman is more durable is ridiculous. How exactly are you suppose to compare them?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well first Vince.... Only seriously slow people or people on drugs would say Superman is more durable in general, let alone based on that feat.
That's my main point, PillorofOsiris's conclusions are invalid because the size of the black holes are so disproportional to each other. There's no way you can draw the conclusion that Superman is more durable without completely tossing out logic.
Its the equivalent of saying Superman tanked a city busting attack and wasn't hurt, but Thanos tanked a solar system busting attack and got hurt, therefore superman is more durable because he didn't get hurt. 😆
