Runner ( no gem) vs Thor

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not at all

dumb drax was able to use his power gem even though he swallowed it, pip had his clenched between his toes, and the majority of the other users had theirs on their brows; it's location on you doesn't matter, you just have to will it to do something.

thanos also had the power gem so he should have been able to do far more than he showed, plus he already researched the gems from a cosmic repository of knowledge.

starlin was saving feats for ig imo

And unlike the power gem, the time gem requires conscious/precise thought to use properly -- a thought process Thanos was unlikely to enter while being blitzed to hell. When Runner stopped his onslaught in order to monologue, Thanos was able to gain the advantage because he was no longer getting pummeled, and was finally able to tap his gem.

For the sake of avoiding needless conjecture, let's say Thor on Average. I'm talking the entire course of his history, not that "lighting only" bullshyte that Marvel pulled over the last few years and certainly not only his high end stuff. I think you could safely assume that at least going by feats, that Thor is stronger then Norrin. However on paper they should be relative equals, which is par for the course with the high herald class. In either case, The Runner overpowered Norrin, and casually at that. Thor did it too, but it was done in one of the highest showings of his life during B&T.

So I'm saying on average The Runner should have little trouble with Thor just as he had little trouble with Norrin.

Originally posted by dmills
In either case, The Runner overpowered Norrin, and casually at that. Thor did it too, but it was done in one of the highest showings of his life during B&T.

So I'm saying on average The Runner should have little trouble with Thor just as he had little trouble with Norrin.

Thor did more than overpower Surfer. He could have killed him easily if he wanted to. What's more it was revealed that Thor (and maybe Asgardians in general) is immune to the powers of the Soul Gem.

He took on Surfer and the entire Infinity Watch and was winning. Let's see Runner do that without an Infinity Gem.

Originally posted by Galan007
And unlike the power gem, the time gem requires conscious/precise thought to use properly -- a thought process Thanos was unlikely to enter while being blitzed to hell. When Runner stopped his onslaught in order to monologue, Thanos was able to gain the advantage because he was no longer getting pummeled, and was finally able to tap his gem.

Then how do you explain the Gardner using the Gem's power subconsciously to freeze his plants in their prime to make their beauty last forever (it was mentioned on panel by the way).

No if Thanos was really panicking, he could have used the Gem to stop time or something and then let loose on the Runner. But like others have pointed out, he was never really in any danger against the Runner to begin with.

That's a high end feat for Thor. You're not arguing that on average he's chumping high heralds right? Are you?

Originally posted by Mindset
I'll take care of you.

I wont even beat you often.

I'm sure you will.

That's a shame. I have all of this pent up stuff that needs to be released.

Originally posted by dmills
That's a high end feat for Thor. On average he isn't chumping high heralds right?

Sure he is, when he isn't chumping Skyfathers, Galactus, Exitar, etc....

Originally posted by zopzop
Sure he is, when he isn't chumping Skyfathers, Galactus, Exitar, etc....

Originally posted by Galan007
The power gem was meaningless in that battle, as Thanos was far too slow to hit Runner with... Anything.

And unlike the power gem, the time gem requires conscious/precise thought to use properly -- a thought process Thanos was unlikely to enter while being blitzed to hell. When Runner stopped his onslaught in order to monologue, Thanos was able to gain the advantage because he was no longer getting pummeled, and was finally able to tap his gem.

he didn't have to use the gems on runner at all when he could just use them on himself to make him the runner's superior with the same abilities the runner had.

then again, beating the runner wasn't his purpse, but using the runner as a barganingship with collector was, so thanos used guile instead of direct force.

Originally posted by zopzop
Then how do you explain the Gardner using the Gem's power subconsciously to freeze his plants in their prime to make their beauty last forever (it was mentioned on panel by the way).

No if Thanos was really panicking, he could have used the Gem to stop time or something and then let loose on the Runner. But like others have pointed out, he was never really in any danger against the Runner to begin with.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thanos could have rendered himself totally indestructible, teleported away, sped up time in his vicinity, etc

he didn't have to use the gems on runner at all when he could just use them on himself to make him the runner's superior with the same abilities the runner had.

beating the runner wasn't his purpse, but using the runner asa barganingship was, so thanos used guile instead of direct force.

All I'm saying is that he wasn't given the opportunity to use the bulk of those exotic powers against Runner during his [Runner's] initial blitz.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm sure you will.

That's a shame. I have all of this pent up stuff that needs to be released.

Originally posted by dmills
I have no words.

He did better vs Odin than Thanos did! He's gone toe to toe vs Zeus and held his own, that's something EVERY Eternal in Olympia couldn't do. Hell he was doing better vs Zeus than the Prime Eternal Zuras was doing.

He cracked Exitar's armor then shattered his skull. That's more than the combined might of not one, but three High Skyfaters could do!

He's driven Galactus away and almost killed him. Hell even a blow from Mjolnir badly hurt Galactus and he said so on panel.

I could go on but you get my point.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't remember it being stated that Thanos was using the gems subconsciously. Mind pointing it out?

Gardner was. Thanos could have used it whenever he wanted to, since unlike Gardner, he actually knew of the Gem's power.

Originally posted by Mindset
Don't worry, I'll by you some Thor comics, you can "release" to your hearts content.

Promise?

I'd still appreciate it if you "helped".

Originally posted by zopzop
He did better vs Odin than Thanos did! He's gone toe to toe vs Zeus and held his own, that's something EVERY Eternal in Olympia couldn't do. Hell he was doing better vs Zeus than the Prime Eternal Zuras was doing.

He cracked Exitar's armor then shattered his skull. That's more than the combined might of not one, but three High Skyfaters could do!

He's driven Galactus away and almost killed him. Hell even a blow from Mjolnir badly hurt Galactus and he said so on panel.

I could go on but you get my point.

😂

Go my creation, spread the word of Thor.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos could have used it whenever he wanted to

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Promise?

I'd still appreciate it if you "helped".

Originally posted by Galan007
Which would require conscious thought. My point is that Thanos wasn't given that opportunity when he was being blitzed.

He sure as heck could've. If Gardner could do it subconsciously while being totally unaware of what the Gem was capable of, Thanos could too even if he was panicking (since he actually knows of the Gem's true nature).

But again, Thanos was NEVER in any danger vs the Runner so it's pointless.

Lmao @ Rage and Mindset!!!

Originally posted by Galan007
Which would require conscious thought. My point is that Thanos wasn't given that opportunity when he was being blitzed.