Originally posted by zopzopProof, plz. While I like the theory, being aware of what something is capable of doesn't mean you can start 'auto-using' all of it's abilities. From what we SAW, any time Thanos used the time gem, it required conscious thought -- but if you can provide evidence to the contrary, I'll gladly accept your line of thought.
He sure as heck could've. If Gardner could do it subconsciously while being totally unaware of what the Gem was capable of, Thanos could too even if he was panicking (since he actually knows of the Gem's true nature).But again, Thanos was NEVER in any danger vs the Runner so it's pointless.
Physical danger? I agree. The power gem would've saw to his safety.
Originally posted by Galan007
Proof, plz. While I like the theory, being aware of what something is capable of doesn't mean you can start 'auto-using' all of it's abilities. From what we SAW, any time Thanos used the time gem, it required conscious thought -- but if you can provide evidence to the contrary, I'll gladly accept your line of thought.
I can show you scans of Thanos saying that the Gardner was subconsciously tapping into the Gem's power without even being aware of it's nature. Why couldn't Thanos do it if he was FULLY aware of the Gem's power even if he was being blitzed?
Physical danger? I agree. The power gem would've saw to his safety.
Thanos needed no Gems to deal with Runner. He wanted him alive to use as a bargaining chip with the Collector.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI agree. But sans the gems, Runner wasn't in any danger either. Thanos was FAR too slow to be effective.
I think at that point in time, the Time Gem required concentration on Thanos' part. That being said, I don't think Thanos was ever in any danger, Power Gem or not.
Originally posted by zopzopNo reason to post the scans. Pretty sure everyone knows that ALL of the Elders Thanos encountered were tapping their gems subconsciously.
I can show you scans of Thanos saying that the Gardner was subconsciously tapping into the Gem's power without even being aware of it's nature. Why couldn't Thanos do it if he was FULLY aware of the Gem's power even if he was being blitzed?
However, the few times Thanos used the TG, it required conscious thought (even when he used it against Runner himself.) Having said that, I'd rather not start speculating that he could have beaten Runner subconsciously -- especially when Thanos even admitted that he had no idea Runner was as fast as he was (ie. he was unprepared for a blitz of that magnitude.)
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree. But sans the gems, Runner wasn't in any danger either. Thanos was FAR too slow to be effective.
Fair enough. Outside of shields and omnidirectional energy projection (Has Thanos ever done this?) I don't think Thanos has anything else in his arsenal effective against the Runner. The Gems not taken into account of course.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThanos tried energy projection (via eye beams), iirc. Runner casually avoided them as he was running circles (literally) around Thanos. Don't know about omni-blasts, though. Might work if Runner was close enough. /shrug
Fair enough. Outside of shields and omnidirectional energy projection (Has Thanos ever done this?) I don't think Thanos has anything else in his arsenal effective against the Runner. The Gems not taken into account of course.
Originally posted by Galan007
Thanos tried energy projection (via eye beams), iirc. Runner casually avoided them as he was running circles (literally) around Thanos. Don't know about omni-blasts, though. Might work if Runner was close enough. /shrug
I doubt singular blasts would work. An omnidirectional attack should work.
It's how Thor would defeat Runner if he went right for the blitz.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
neverbut then again he only fought in two of his ....like 8 ppearances
yeah.... that's kind of what i thought. so the whole thing is speculation. we actually have no idea at all what it would take to ko runner, yet some are saying an omniblast from thor would do it?
hmmmm.... seem to recall some piling on in other threads when it came down to believing something without evidence....
IF runner is on the same level as say grandmaster, no way in hell thor's ko'ing him with a blast. and what about his emotional control? would thor even attack him if runner didn't want him to? runner also has TP, don't forget and i'm pretty sure there is a scan that shows his ability to turn intangible or to phase or something like that. a blast isn't going to do anything if he's intangible. the guy EFFORTLESSLY overpowered ss. i've seen ss do better against mephisto in HELL than he did in that battle against the runner. factor in the fact that he was beating hell out of the collector who himself has whooped the avengers, all this tells me runner is for sure a trans-level being and above thor.
runner takes this fight.
