Sentry vs. JLA

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
If they destroy his body, counts as a forum win, no doubt. In a regular thread. But this specific thread has one specific condition that he HAS to die to count as a win for the team. Something w/c I don't see anyone in the JLA team is capable of doing.

It's not really a no-limits fallacy. We just need to get the maximum damage Sentry sustained and lived thru (MM blowing him apart) and if the JLA can do much better, then they should win. That or match the specific condition that occured (w/c isn't happening here).

If not, they lose. I think that's fair enough.

LT can will him to want to die.

The Sentry that got his body destroyed by MM was weaker.

Wait they have to kill him to win? Ok looks like Void gets the win.

Originally posted by The Nuul
lol at the MM feat. Its a one off and MM was jobbing.

It's ok, I understand now. Sentry actually coming to terms with the fuller extent of his powers (as was already demonstrated by his Void persona, among the times the Sentry persona just resurrected himself, or brought Lindy back to life subconsciously or reconstructed his Tower unconsciously, etc. etc.) should be ignored completely...

... because... y'know this: bawling

badaaaa quanchi is hacking accounts againnnnn

Superman survived an explosion the size of 50 supernovas. Superman tanks punches that alter reality. The Sentry runs out of power fighting the Hulk. The Voided out Sentry gets taken out by a hellicarrier. The Sentry is killed by Thor. Hercules out ran the Sentry. The Sentry's team couldn't win the civil war in the physical battle (when the heaviest hitter on the other team was hercules). The Sentry unleashing his full power barely destroyed a couple of city blocks of manhattan. Superman punches through planets. The sentry couldn't beat genis-vell. (he was BFR'ed).

Why is the sentry so f-ing impressive? In Siege the only guy who could even match him on the other team was thor, the rest were a little better than street level. People cling to like 3 feats from the sentry and swear he is > LT. Superman's speed feats are more impressive. his durability feats are more impressive. his strength feats are more impressive. He's fought more powerful opponents and won. and he's not an annoying drug addict.

And that's just ONE GUY on this team.

And if we want to talk about dying, according to DC...its been stated ON PANEL, Superman is unable to permanently die due to his place in the DCU.

do u know anything else void has done besides siege?

Let me guess what you're going to bring up, the MM and the cosmic cube. Do you have any idea of superman's high end feats?

Pillar, dont forget that he stalemated Galactus!

he got k-o'd by a nuke once. (lol)

I know you're joking Nuul, but some people actually believe that makes Sentry=Galactus when the "fight" happened off panel, according Spiderman, a guy who probably wasn't in a position to even see it, and we don't even know how hungry Galactus was. And its been stated a couple of times on panel that Sentry is/was a liar. But even if it happened, considering Thor has 2 actual "wins" over Galactus, that's hardly impressive.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF

Sentry is just as strong, just as fast, and just as durable has heat vision as well and is coupled with additional powers like TP, energy blast from the hands, entire body, even from his chest, regeneration abilities, teleportation... telekinesis, and the list goes on but he still lose to supes.

Yeah right.

I would give him the majority against any of them.

A dumbass easily deceived Schizo is not beating Guys on the level of Superman .

Supermans experience coupled with his powers give him a healthy majority.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman survived an explosion the size of 50 supernovas. Superman tanks punches that alter reality. The Sentry runs out of power fighting the Hulk. The Voided out Sentry gets taken out by a hellicarrier. The Sentry is killed by Thor. Hercules out ran the Sentry. The Sentry's team couldn't win the civil war in the physical battle (when the heaviest hitter on the other team was hercules). The Sentry unleashing his full power barely destroyed a couple of city blocks of manhattan. Superman punches through planets. The sentry couldn't beat genis-vell. (he was BFR'ed).

Why is the sentry so f-ing impressive? In Siege the only guy who could even match him on the other team was thor, the rest were a little better than street level. People cling to like 3 feats from the sentry and swear he is > LT. Superman's speed feats are more impressive. his durability feats are more impressive. his strength feats are more impressive. He's fought more powerful opponents and won. and he's not an annoying drug addict.

And that's just ONE GUY on this team.

And if we want to talk about dying, according to DC...its been stated ON PANEL, Superman is unable to permanently die due to his place in the DCU.

Context? Yea Void got taken out by a hellicarrier. facepalm

Oh and Thor didn't match him at all.

^ The abundance of phail in his post has reached critical mass.

I'd love to see someone make an actual argument that puts Sentry over Superman, let alone this team, instead of making asinine comments with no proof whatsoever. the most well thought out argument for the sentry in this thread has been "your post iz epic phail".

Superman shatters time:

http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/?action=view&current=shattertime.jpg

He's held a black hole in the palm of his hand. He's lifted a book with infinite pages. He's moved the wheels of Mageddon (which was as big as Jupiter...Jupiter is 1,000 times bigger than the earth). He's taken an explosion the size of 50 supernovas. He's fought weakened Superboy Prime (with help, but still) after flying through a red sun and on a planet basically made of kryptonite and won. He's taken reality shattering punches.

I've never even seen Sentry speed blitzing someone like Superman has (except in a What If fight against Thor, in which Sentry was killed in anyway). I'm not saying its never happened, but I've never seen it. I've seen him fly into people really fast. But I have also seen Hercules out running Sentry who was flying while chasing him. I also saw Hercules punk the Sentry. I've seen the Sentry run out of power against the Hulk. I've seen Sentry be unable to stop Captain America's team in the Civil War. I've seen Thor kill the Sentry.

Really, I'd love to see some feats that put Sentry above Superman. For every impressive strength feat someone can post of Sentry I can post 10 for Superman. For every speed feat, I can post 20 of Superman, and each one more impressive than Sentry's best.

Nice to see an entertaining thread again.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris OneDumbG0
I'd love to see someone you make an actual argument

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Let me guess what you're going to bring up, the MM and the cosmic cube. Do you have any idea of superman's high end feats?

ok so u dont really know...explains a lot 👆

The Sentry gets wrecked by this team so bad I almost feel sorry for him.

Originally posted by Mini Bennett
Sentry vs.

Justice League:

- Batman (Dick Grayson)
- Flash (Barry Allen)
- Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
- Martian Manhunter
- Plastic Man
- Superman
- Wonder Woman
- Zatanna.

Rules/Notes:

- Blood lust isn't on and everyone is IC

- Current versions of the all JLA members and Pre-death Void-possessed Bob Reynolds

- The JLA get 30 minutes prep before the battle

- The battle takes place in an abandoned Manhattan, New York

- Sentry enters the battle field flying into the city at full-speed

- Winner by death.

Who wins and why?

A few things to consider would be the following:

-How Zatanna contributes here. Depending on how prep is used, she can be anything from minor support to extremely haxxed. If her "Esrepsid!" spell was able to damage Starbreaker, I imagine such a spell would harm Void. To say nothing of how she supports the team.

-How Void handles several herald class characters fighting him at once. Voidtry fought Thor in Siege, and managed to get the upper hand, though Thor did cause physical damage. Thor, amped with Norn Stones and other Street Levelers and Metas also managed to damage Void. The Norn Stone amp was pretty vague, imo. And it begs the question if Thor, Cap, and Iron Man (the three main damagers of Void if you look at the panels: you see a repulsor ray and shield hitting him, iirc) amped is > than this JLA roster in addition to whatever support Zee gives them.

-How the lasso of Wonder Woman's effects Bob. It's pretty haxxed as weapons go, and depending on how it's used could potentially screw him up big time. I've not seen any evidence that supports Bob's - or the Void's - soul being able to withstand the lasso's power. Am I saying this auto-wins? Of course not. But based on its powers and whom it has effected, it's something to seriously consider. Even JMS Wonder Woman's lasso has the ability to tame (and torture) souls.

-What exactly IC for Void means. Is he going to just be floating in his AstroCrab self, or actively trying to butcher the JLA? And will he subsequently wind up breaking down under the strain of being attacked and revert to Bob and ask for death?

I really don't think you can just go "lol Void ragestomps" or "Superman solos".

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I really don't think you can just go "lol Void ragestomps" or "Superman solos".

I kinda agree.