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The Nuul Senior Member

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Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by Nihilist
Why dont you tell what they have done to put them at HH lvl along with the likes of Thor,Surfre,Genis,Sentry.

Never claimed they were.

But I see the people you named(minus genis as I know next to nothing about him) as in the higher rung of the high herald tier and the like of Black Bolt, and Nova Prime as in the low-mid rung of the HH tier.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Never claimed they were.
But I see the people you named(minus genis as I know next to nothing about him) as in the higher rung of the high herald tier and the like of Black Bolt, and Nova Prime as in the low-mid rung of the HH tier.

no such thing as low-mid HH, its low herald mid herald or High herld, each is a seperate section.

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by Nihilist
no such thing as low-mid HH, its low herald mid herald or High herld, each is a seperate section.

Surfer would beat superman. or thor. And thor would beat BB. But I see them all in HH tier.

They can be stronger then one an other but not in a whole other tier altogether

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Surfer would beat superman. or thor. And thor would beat BB. But I see them all in HH tier.
They can be stronger then one an other but not in a whole other tier altogether

Whatever, simple fact the tier systems doesnt work like that, low mid high thats it. It was designed that way so characters xould be seperated who just dont make the grade to the next lvl.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nihilist
Each clone represented a power form of Thanos ie physical strength(Glads clone) mental power(X clone).
Do you have a scan of anything saying that the Glads clone was stronger than Thanos(because thats what you claimed first)? rather than Warlock thinking it was stronger than Thanos, as Warlock himslef has stated he has never seen Thanos fully exert himself and he has never physically fought Thanos to know his strength lvl.
And f*cking lol if you think Glads strength is anything on its own compared to Thanos, Thanos would pimp slap the shit out of him.

Wow... warlock has known thanos for centuries and has also sparred against him. He of all people should know if someone is stronger than thanos.

Simbon Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Could someone post the scan of Warlock commenting on the clone's strength? I don't have it on hand.
If the clone is intended to be four times stronger than Thanos, then I'd argue each of the clones focused on one particular trait (Strength, magic etc.) in which they were superior to Thanos, but since it was only one specific trait, Thanos' might still rivaled their own.
baka
What proof? There evidence just isn't there.
Gladiator has never beaten Thor twice. The one instance that could be counted as a win wasn't even a real win against Thor and had other circumstances. He never humiliated and trashed -unless you're referring to the verbal part of the fight which I doubt- Masterson. That fight made it clear that the two were physically equal in strength with Masterson being more powerful/versatile while Gladiator is more formidable in hand to hand combat due to being an experienced warrior in comparison to the untrained Masterson.
And let's not even delve into your more fanatical opinions of Gladiator being beyond Thor in strength, Gladiator possessing nigh infinite strength that's only limited by his mental state etc.

I don't think that Glads is as powerful as Carver says (nor Thor or hulk for that matter), but putting him in the high herald category doesn't seem unreasonable, despite his losses to Thor and Hulk —_owning vulcan the way he did, or Nova or Hyperion, not-to-mention his famous nova-containing feat and 100x lightspeed -- these are pretty impressive feats, no?

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

I'm not arguing about Gladiator's standing in the tiers.

I'm perfectly fine with him being in the High Herald category. I think his a High Herald physically.

Originally posted by carver9
Rage, I know your adrenaline is rushing but can we talk about this later. Be patient because you are going to get owned regardless. Ill post my proof later... we need to end this anyway because you and I have been talking about this for at least a year.

baka

Thor and Gladiator have had around 4 fights. In none of those battles, is there evidence to support your delusions.

Thor vs. Gladiator (Fight No. 2):
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGladiator01FF339.jpg
Thanks to ODG. I can't find the scans for this fight for some reason.

Thor vs. Gladiator (Fight No. 3):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator6-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator6-2.jpg

Thor vs. Gladiator (Fight No. 4):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator7-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsGladiator11.jpg

Based on their battles, it's clear that Thor is at least Gladiator's physical equal in strength, and is more powerful as well as versatile.

The best Gladiator managed to do was in their third fight. And in that battle, there were certain circumstances: I. Thor was protecting the mortal female from the crumbling building; II. Gladiator was out to kill Thor (Now that I think about it, Gladiator was out to kill in all their fights); III. Thor considered Gladiator as a friend and obviously held back; IV. Gladiator didn't knock Thor out, Thor transformed into Olsen.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Nihilist
That my take on it 👆
I'll scan it shortly.

Thanks.

dmills Centurion Prime

@ nihilist,

I get what the kid is saying. A pecking order even within the respective tiers. For example before Thor's recent resurgence, for a while Norrin was considered the highest of HH, with Thor and Supes close behind etc.

@ BB,

A guy like Nova, has the powerset, i.e speed, strength, durability etc, but doesn't have the requisite feats vs others in the HH tier. He's knocking at the door though.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Wow... warlock has known thanos for centuries and has also sparred against him. He of all people should know if someone is stronger than thanos.

Give it your bullshit wow all you want, Warlock has stated on panel he has never seen Thanos go full out and has never fought Thanos physically, hell a pre res weaker Thanos killed Warlock in one blast, the glads clone couldnt put Warlock done with 5 or so punches, Thanos killed Surfer with one more and Surfer is far more durable than Adam.

It's laughable that you think Adam knows more than Thanos about a being that Thanos created than he does himself, youre desperation is pathteic sometimes i though better of you once.

dmills Centurion Prime

Originally posted by Simbon
I don't think that Glads is as powerful as Carver says (nor Thor or hulk for that matter), but putting him in the high herald category doesn't seem unreasonable, despite his losses to Thor and Hulk —_owning vulcan the way he did, or Nova or Hyperion, not-to-mention his famous nova-containing feat and 100x lightspeed -- these are pretty impressive feats, no?

Glads and Nova haven't fought recently. That was Tarcel that Glads pwned, not Rich. Unless you're talking about the fight in the early 90's.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by dmills
Glads and Nova haven't fought recently. That was Tarcel that Glads pwned, not Rich.

Rich did Pwn that Glads strath women and she was at least equal to Glads.

The Nuul Senior Member

Glads is not as powerful than other HHs. Being strong and fast doesnt make you powerful.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by The Nuul
Glads is not as powerful than other HHs. Being strong and fast doesnt make you powerful.

👆

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

IIRC, wasn't Gladiator shown to be above her in the past? Or was it Beta Ray Bill? I forget.

Either way, Richard was getting his ass kicked until he played with her weakness. If it was a straight up fight, I would favor Gladiator for the kicking of the ass.

Simbon Senior Member

Originally posted by Nihilist
Rich did Pwn that Glads strath women and she was at least equal to Glads.

Took me a second to understand what you were trying to say: you are refering to Xenith, yes? She is nowhere near as strong as Gladiator.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nihilist
Give it your bullshit wow all you want, Warlock has stated on panel he has never seen Thanos go full out and has never fought Thanos physically, hell a pre res weaker Thanos killed Warlock in one blast, the glads clone couldnt put Warlock done with 5 or so punches, Thanos killed Surfer with one more and Surfer is far more durable than Adam.
It's laughable that you think Adam knows more than Thanos about a being that Thanos created than he does himself, youre desperation is pathteic sometimes i though better of you once.

So nihilst, are you telling me that it is ok to ignore on-panel statements, yes or no?

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by Simbon
Took me a second to understand what you were trying to say: you are refering to Xenith, yes? She is nowhere near as strong as Gladiator.

Yeah my bad i couldnt remember her name, iirc it was said in the Nova issue that she was now as strong a Gladiator.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by carver9
So nihilst, are you telling me that it is ok to ignore on-panel statements, yes or no?

Why not; you do. ha-som