Rambo versus Endor

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Incorrect again. We can/have already. (numerous times):

*It withstood every attack that the rebels had mounted on one ever.

*(Attacks from all manner of explosive, concussive, focused energy and other types of weapons from warring civilisations WAY more advanced that ours....)

*It wasn't shown ever to not be as strong as maintained.

*Luke advised that the only chance of stopping them would in all probablity be going for the LEGS not the NECK. Doh.

Thats already way more than was needed to blow your completely unfounded/unbacked/unreasonable/inconceivable/incredulous assertions from the faeces laden water they floated in.

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O.O

Didnt need to see that while im eating........

'Sorry bout that, Pwned.

You were an innocent bystander! 😛

AHHH!!!!!!

Not the innocent bystanders! NO!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's pretty gross, dude.

"Shit happens." 😖hifty:

Besides...If you dont like it's smell, stop filling threads up with it then...! 😛

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rambo is being hunted by the Empire. He is tracked down to the forests of Endor. Vader sends the following to hunt him down and kill him:

2 AT-AT's
10 AT-ST's
The entire 501st legion of Stormtroopers (Let's say 500 in number)

Rambo is dug in deep in the forest. He has been there for a week and is completely familiar with the terrain. He is armed with the following: His bow (unlimited arrowheads and C-4 tips), an M-60, an M-16, a Glock .45, grenades, claymores and an RPG. He also has his Bowie knife and his machete from Rambo 4. He is wearing tiger stripe camo. He has unlimited ammunition for the firearms, explosives and the RPG.

Remember, Rambo is 100% familiar with the terrain, whereas the Empire squad is not.

The battle begins just as the sun sets, and it is pouring down rain.

Does Rambo survive? He must destroy the opposition, all of them. Vader is not directly involved. No Star Destroyers, no Death Stars, no orbital bombardment bullshit.

Taking on an army by yourself is going to be rough no matter who the single person is and who the army is. I don't care if its the Terminator vs the Redcoats from the "Patriot" or Batman vs Nottingham soldiers from the "Prince of Thieves". It could be Darth Vader vs the Putty for that matter once you get in to army numbers. The army almost always has the advantage.

In this case we have numbers in to the hundreds that is and then for good measure you throw in vehicular support.

Is it possible for Rambo to win this scenario? Yes. Is it likely? No. He has an advantages that have yet to be addressed. He ha some thing the Imperials want. Namely him. Meaning he can dictate the terms of engagement . That is to say he can set an area up how ever he wants and then alert the Imperials to his presence. Whether he stays their or not.

Can he take out the Imperial equipment on sight? Yes. Again it's gonna be rough, but with the right traps, even the AT-ATs could be brought down. I'd imagine his best bet for them would be to target the terrain around them. Such as simply blowing the ground out from under them causing them to trip. Of course with a weeks prep and dictating the area of battle and a large supply of demolition munitions. Building AT-AT sized tiger traps is not unthinkable.

Let me restate though. That while I think that victory is attainable for Rambo. It's far more likely that while he will inflict heavy losses, he will eventually get over run.

If you could perhaps explain per piece of Imperial Equipment in site, how Rambo would prevail, that might carry more weight.

'Cause Rambo seems screwed so far, especially against the AT-ATs...

I'm leaning towards Rambo taking out at least half of them. "Stormtrooper effect" disregarded, there are here 500 blaster rifles, the Scouts have a grenade launcher on their right side, double cannons on their chin, and another blaster on the left, multiplied by 10, and the Walkers have a total of 8 heavy cannons. Get them all going at once, or even just in small hotspots, and it's very likely Rambo could be hit by a stray bolt. The AT-ATs' guns can target very small targets with minimal power, or blast very large areas with "maximum firepower". The AT-ST guns are powerful enough to blast trees apart. Any of those guns gets a hit on or in close proximity to Rambo, and he's dead. He's also without armor, so any rifle-shot or shrapnel that comes his way isn't going to be slowed down.

I say he brings down half of them but gets cornered and blown apart by one of the vehicles. Or gets crushed by one of them falling over.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
If you could perhaps explain per piece of Imperial Equipment in site, how Rambo would prevail, that might carry more weight.

'Cause Rambo seems screwed so far, especially against the AT-ATs...

But what if we replaced Rambo with...John McClane! awesome

Instant death for the empire. 😉

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
But what if we replaced Rambo with...John McClane! awesome

McClane is renamed Darth Sion

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sion

😄 😛 and rules effortlessly

💃

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
If you could perhaps explain per piece of Imperial Equipment in site, how Rambo would prevail, that might carry more weight.

'Cause Rambo seems screwed so far, especially against the AT-ATs...

Well Troopers themselves are going to fall to massed smalls arms fire, if Ewok bows can bring them down. I'm gonna bet an M60 can as well. AT-ST's are splatted by tree's and falls. Claymore, explosive arrows, and RPGs should work just fine on them.

The biggest threat as you pointed out are the AT-AT. However as I already mentioned. Liberal use of traps and terrain should be able to take them. AT-AT sized "tiger traps" etc or even large scale obstructions to curtail and control their movement. As others have pointed out if Rambo can get on top of them large amounts of explosive directly on the hull/windows ought to do some damage.

Remember also that nothing is stopping Rambo from "borrowing" weapons from felled enemies.

Though again let me make this clear. I don't like Rambo's odds here, I like them better then McClanes, but neither is likely to win.

Likewise, 500 troops plus vehicle fire: Lotta blasts flying around. I dont reckon Rambo will survive that. Also theres no guarantee that the AT STs/Speederbike/other small vehicles will go into every trap that is set...
and even less guarantee that it'd happen before Rambo gets "Owen and Beru'ed." (Star wars cockney rhyming slang for "Screwed"😉

The AT ATs too are not guaranteed a predictabnle path either:
They might just sit still and blast the entire area at maximum firepower.

No argument there. Hes just got to survive long enough to acquire said weapon.

Well that might be so, but I still fancy McClane's chances over Rigg's.

AT-AT sized tiger-traps? Rambo's going to have a busy week placing hundreds and hundreds of claymores and digging massive holes and then covering them up so they somehow look natural. Though the AT-AT being a multi-terrain vehicle of war, I'm fairly certain it's designed to take on some potholes.

McClane factor > Rambo's guerrilla training. While Rambo did take out a Hind gun-ship, he did it with a tank. McClane took out an F-16 Lightning with just his antics. Stands to reason that when it comes to destroying machines of war, McClane is far superior.

There you have it. 😛

Another thought that occurred, Riot, is that it might not be too smart for a hunter relying on stealth to employ weapons that are essentially tracer rounds....that might go against the likelihood of Rambo trying to acquire SW weapons on site.

DAMN IT WHO BROUGHT THIS THING BACK UP?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I wasted a whole afternoon on this, it FINALLY died, then its back x.x

Anyways, i dont see Rambo ever having enough time to dig those pits. Hes going to have a hard time with claymores alone. Besides, the whole "maximum firepower" thing applies as well. That shit makes a huge ass boom.

Also, Rambo has been wounded, right? If he has, then the stormies wont utterly fail due to PIS, or PIBA. (plot induced bad aim) He has been hit, and will be here.

He has also needed to be saved in Rambo II, Rambo III and Rambo(4), facing far lesser numbers and he had help.

Very true.

Still.

Not bad for a midget though, eh?