Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Likewise, 500 troops plus vehicle fire: Lotta blasts flying around. I dont reckon Rambo will survive that. Also theres no guarantee that the AT STs/Speederbike/other small vehicles will go into every trap that is set...
and even less guarantee that it'd happen before Rambo gets "Owen and Beru'ed." (Star wars cockney rhyming slang for "Screwed"😉The AT ATs too are not guaranteed a predictabnle path either:
They might just sit still and blast the entire area at maximum firepower.No argument there. Hes just got to survive long enough to acquire said weapon.
Well that might be so, but I still fancy McClane's chances over Rigg's.
He really doesn't need traps for the smaller vehicles. Speeder bikes and AT-STs are not likely to survive RPGs or explosive arrows. Or claymores, but I guess those probably count as a trap.
As for whether they will cross his traps, remember the Imperials are hunting him. So he can to some degree dictate the area of operation. In other words make the Imperials come to him.
As for the scorched earth approach. It may work, but again eventual they will come to him and his traps, though coverage for and the traps themselves. May have been blasted in to oblivion before they get to them. As I already mentioned AT-ATs are going to be rough.
As for who I think has a better shot between McClane and Riggs. Riggs has more experience in wooded terrain, but McClane has better feats against vehicles. So it's kinda of six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
Originally posted by Robtard
AT-AT sized tiger-traps? Rambo's going to have a busy week placing hundreds and hundreds of claymores and digging massive holes and then covering them up so they somehow look natural. Though the AT-AT being a multi-terrain vehicle of war, I'm fairly certain it's designed to take on some potholes.
I admit. Its not a perfect plan, but this is Rambo we are talking about. I guy who manages to build stuff including traps, in far less time then you'd think was needed. As for the AT-AT being futuristic ATVs they maybe, but feats still show them to be some what unstable.
Originally posted by Robtard
McClane factor > Rambo's guerrilla training. While Rambo did take out a Hind gun-ship, he did it with a tank. McClane took out an F-16 Lightning with just his antics. Stands to reason that when it comes to destroying machines of war, McClane is far superior.
And Rambo sent a helicopter spinning with a rock. That's not the point, Rambo has more anti-vehicular feats with the weapons on hand then McClane has with any weapons he has ever used.
By the way I think it was an F-35.
Originally posted by Riot-Gear
He really doesn't need traps for the smaller vehicles. Speeder bikes and AT-STs are not likely to survive RPGs or explosive arrows. Or claymores, but I guess those probably count as a trap.As for whether they will cross his traps, remember the Imperials are hunting him. So he can to some degree dictate the area of operation. In other words make the Imperials come to him.
As for the scorched earth approach. It may work, but again eventual they will come to him and his traps, though coverage for and the traps themselves. May have been blasted in to oblivion before they get to them. As I already mentioned AT-ATs are going to be rough.
As for who I think has a better shot between McClane and Riggs. Riggs has more experience in wooded terrain, but McClane has better feats against vehicles. So it's kinda of six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
Well the first smoke trail he leaves from an RPG = Immediate Rambo death.
You assume they come to him: I say they hang back and maximum firepower the shit out of the area his attacks come from.
Riggs would still show up on their scanners and when the first big bombardments come in he is toast, and Murtaugh isn't there to save/wipe his ass either. And he lacks the McClane factor.
(Riggs also has no onscreen forest/jungle combat feats.)
Originally posted by Riot-Gear
I admit. Its not a perfect plan, but this is Rambo we are talking about. I guy who manages to build stuff including traps, in far less time then you'd think was needed. As for the AT-AT being futuristic ATVs they maybe, but feats still show them to be some what unstable.And Rambo sent a helicopter spinning with a rock. That's not the point, Rambo has more anti-vehicular feats with the weapons on hand then McClane has with any weapons he has ever used.
By the way I think it was an F-35.
The chopper was in the shit for trying to maintain its position anyway.
And the Chopper merely withdrew after Gault's fall.
If its First blood you refer to.
Hell of a lot of difference between a Chopper with its personel as exposed targets, and a sealed, armoured death machine like and AT-AT or even an AT-ST.
11 mins onwards. If Rambo goes for a drink he dies. No Ewok and his magic stick saving his ass.
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Originally posted by Riot-Gear
I admit. Its not a perfect plan, but this is Rambo we are talking about. I guy who manages to build stuff including traps, in far less time then you'd think was needed. As for the AT-AT being futuristic ATVs they maybe, but feats still show them to be some what unstable.And Rambo sent a helicopter spinning with a rock. That's not the point, Rambo has more anti-vehicular feats with the weapons on hand then McClane has with any weapons he has ever used.
By the way I think it was an F-35.
It's a shot-in-the-dark plan, imo; the AT-AT is where Rambo stops. I personally don't think he can kill 500 troops before they kill him, going from the films. But the AT-AT is the enemy Rambo can't take down by making a stupid face and groaning.
WTF? No, just no. An F-16 Lightning II is a weapon of war, superior to any machine Rambo has faced and destroyed; McClane survived an assault from one and downed it with nothing but antics. Throwing a rock at a helicopter is good and all, but you know what's better? Launching a Ford Crown Victoria (a vehicle not designed for flight) into one and obliterating it. This is also ignoring that he neutralized one of the machine-gunners on said helicopter previously via fire hydrant technique. Vehicular feats goes to McClane; by a landslide.
If the AT-ATs can track and hit little furry/naturally camouflaged ewoks- which they can- then Rambo shouldn't have much chance. Thats if he doesn't run into one of all these traps he's setting for 500 troops.
Even if you just took into account the troops Rambo still wouldn't have any hope, his position usually gets found out after killing the 5th or 6th guy. Guerilla tactics is Rambo's speciality, not so much using weapons full time.
Most of the carnage in Rambo 2 was done from the helicopter he took. Could he commandeer an AT-AT, yes, with planning but he wouldn't be able operate one and even if this thread gives him that knowledge it kind of makes it pointless having countless weapons and infinte ammo/traps. Even then he would run into his own traps with the AT-AT and scupper his own advantage, plus other AT-AT controllers would have him trapped and would blast him mercilessly.