Originally posted by -Pr-
Are you f*cking serious?You lied about half of those, and the other half are shit even John Byrne Superman has exceeded.
You're going to have to do better than that.
Why are we talking about superman? I didn't bring Superman up in this thread. I thought we were debating about the peeps here.
What am I lying about?
Originally posted by carver9
Why are we talking about superman? I didn't bring Superman up in this thread. I thought we were debating about the peeps here.What am I lying about?
you misrepresented half those scans.
and superman has to do with it in the sense that when even john byrne superman could replicate/surpass those feats, the modern superman/thor/surfer basically point and laugh at them.
so do black adam and orion.
Originally posted by Spire
In other words, the feats don't make Gladz out to be what you think he is.So why do you keep trolling with them?
Did I ever say that Glads could beat Thor? I don't even consider thor a high herald... I consider him so much more.
What I did say is that glads can beat anyone on the opposing team.
Originally posted by -Pr-
you misrepresented half those scans.and superman has to do with it in the sense that when even john byrne superman could replicate/surpass those feats, the modern superman/thor/surfer basically point and laugh at them.
so do black adam and orion.
So you can show me similar feats from current Supes?
Not saying that you can't but I would love to see these.
Originally posted by carver9
So with that said, since I put up feats that means that gladiator>galactus?
You can do this. I'll help you. Using the scans you like to go on and on about I asked a simple question.
Gladz vs Thor. Who wins?
A) Gladiator kicks his ass.
B) The Gladiator you talk about doesn't exist. The scans and feats are full of lolz and to continue to use them in the matter that you do is biased trolling.
So, lets give this another go!!!!
Gladiator vs Thor.
Who wins, carver?
Originally posted by carver9
So you can show me similar feats from current Supes?Not saying that you can't but I would love to see these.
I don't even need to use all current ones. I could use John Byrne ones. I thought you said you read a lot of Superman?
Flying through a star and getting hurt?
Superman did that to a RED SUN during Infinite Crisis, and still survived until he impacted Mogo. Surfer, iirc, has flown through stars before.
Constantly operating at hyper-speed? No, he wasn't. He had operated at it for a limited period of time. The scan actually says this, and that it took effort from him.
Throwing one punch with enough force to level a city? No he wasn't, and even if he did, Thor, Adam and Superman have all thrown punches that would level mountain ranges.
You lied about the immeasurable one. A vague description in a comic isn't quantifiable.
The nano-second one was already shown to be untrue.
Blitz at near light-speed? Not really, and even if it was, it's nothing Surfer and Superman haven't done simply by making course corrections while travelling ABOVE the speed of light.
He broke "unbreakable" bonds. Great, more hyperbole. John Byrne Superman did that while scratching his arse.
He didn't disarm a bomb at light speed. He unearthed it at light speed. Not that difficult.
Smacked down Warbird... Great. That's nothing Orion, Adam, Superman, Thor or Hulk hasn't done to someone of equal or greater power.
and then you post some vague, unquantifiable speed feats that pale in comparison to Adam keeping up with Jay Garrick.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't even need to use all current ones. I could use John Byrne ones. I thought you said you read a lot of Superman?Flying through a star and getting hurt?
Superman did that to a RED SUN during Infinite Crisis, and still survived until he impacted Mogo. Surfer, iirc, has flown through stars before.
Constantly operating at hyper-speed? No, he wasn't. He had operated at it for a limited period of time. The scan actually says this, and that it took effort from him.
Throwing one punch with enough force to level a city? No he wasn't, and even if he did, Thor, Adam and Superman have all thrown punches that would level mountain ranges.
You lied about the immeasurable one. A vague description in a comic isn't quantifiable.
The nano-second one was already shown to be untrue.
Blitz at near light-speed? Not really, and even if it was, it's nothing Surfer and Superman haven't done simply by making course corrections while travelling ABOVE the speed of light.
He broke "unbreakable" bonds. Great, more hyperbole. John Byrne Superman did that while scratching his arse.
He didn't disarm a bomb at light speed. He unearthed it at light speed. Not that difficult.
Smacked down Warbird... Great. That's nothing Orion, Adam, Superman, Thor or Hulk hasn't done to someone of equal or greater power.
and then you post some vague, unquantifiable speed feats that pale in comparison to Adam keeping up with Jay Garrick.
A star doesnt power him up so swimming through a star millions of miles is hellava impressive imo. He was hurt but there is no telling how long he was in this star since again, the miles that he was swimming through it. Swimming through a star and standing on the top of one is two different things.
Im not going to mention the red star feat that you brought up... the only thing that I am going to say is blitzing through a star and swimming through one are two different things.
I never said tha he was in hyper speed forever but he did just tussle with thor when reed amped their speeds to ridiculous levels and gladiator was still able to perceive them. This happened "before" the scan you read. That is why I ended my post by letting you know that I was going to post more.
How did I lie about the immeasurable feat?
When was the nano-second feat proven wrong?
Blitzing at near light speed? I'm not going to share my thoughts on this... I might get in trouble. You can have that argument.
Pr, I truly don't know what type of feats you are looking for. Tell me something that you want because everything that I put up, you tend to disagree with it.
Originally posted by carver9
A star doesnt power him up so swimming through a star millions of miles is hellava impressive imo. He was hurt but there is no telling how long he was in this star since again, the miles that he was swimming through it. Swimming through a star and standing on the top of one is two different things.Im not going to mention the red star feat that you brought up... the only thing that I am going to say is blitzing through a star and swimming through one are two different things.
I never said tha he was in hyper speed forever but he did just tussle with thor when reed amped their speeds to ridiculous levels and gladiator was still able to perceive them. This happened "before" the scan you read. That is why I ended my post by letting you know that I was going to post more.
How did I lie about the immeasurable feat?
When was the nano-second feat proven wrong?
Blitzing at near light speed? I'm not going to share my thoughts on this... I might get in trouble. You can have that argument.
Pr, I truly don't know what type of feats you are looking for. Tell me something that you want because everything that I put up, you tend to disagree with it.
A red sun doesn't power Superman up either. He went THROUGH it. Or didn't you know that?
as for the "swimming" argument, a black hole pisses all over a star when it comes to gravitational forces, and yet the likes of green lantern and superman can easily resist their power.
you did say he constantly operated at hyper speed. i can quote your post if you like.
even if he was (which he wasn't), it's still not impressive.
You said it was immeasurable, when it wasn't. You forgot to add the word "ALMOST".
Ages ago. Also, the scan you posted makes no mention of nano-second feats.
I want feats that put him at high herald. You haven't posted ONE that put him above the likes of Wonder Woman or Martian Manhunter, who are both physically below Adam or Orion.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I think those are decent feats for Glads.. no OMG WTF feats.. but they are good feats.
nobody is saying that they're not good feats. we're just saying that they're not high herald beating feats.
Originally posted by -Pr-
A red sun doesn't power Superman up either. He went THROUGH it. Or didn't you know that?as for the "swimming" argument, a black hole pisses all over a star when it comes to gravitational forces, and yet the likes of green lantern and superman can easily resist their power.
you did say he constantly operated at hyper speed. i can quote your post if you like.
even if he was (which he wasn't), it's still not impressive.
You said it was immeasurable, when it wasn't. You forgot to add the word "ALMOST".
Ages ago. Also, the scan you posted makes no mention of nano-second feats.
I want feats that put him at high herald. You haven't posted ONE that put him above the likes of Wonder Woman or Martian Manhunter, who are both physically below Adam or Orion.
nobody is saying that they're not good feats. we're just saying that they're not high herald beating feats.
I agree, I did say immeasurable and forgot "almost"... my bad.
I wasn't trying to show you that he was above HH with those scans... I didn't know that you wanted scans like that. I don't think glads is above high herald either but I think he could pull a majority from a list of them.
My intentions were to show you that he is faster than orion and black adam. Black adam fastest speed feat is going mach 500... orion doesn't have a light speed feat or any other listing of a speed feat under his name. The only argument that you all can use for each is "who they fought".
The durability feat wasn't for Supes either, it was to prove that he is more durable than the two on the opposing team.
We know that binary can hurt adam because MM almost burned his face off so that alone tells me he can't swim through star either.
Gladiator strength feats are greater than theirs... speed feat, durability feats. So honestly, what are you all using to determine anyone on team 2 pulling a majority against glads or beating him.