Originally posted by carver9
I agree, I did say immeasurable and forgot "almost"... my bad.I wasn't trying to show you that he was above HH with those scans... I didn't know that you wanted scans like that. I don't think glads is above high herald either but I think he could pull a majority from a list of them.
My intentions were to show you that he is faster than orion and black adam. Black adam fastest speed feat is going mach 500... orion doesn't have a light speed feat or any other listing of a speed feat under his name. The only argument that you all can use for each is "who they fought".
The durability feat wasn't for Supes either, it was to prove that he is more durable than the two on the opposing team.
We know that binary can hurt adam because MM almost burned his face off so that alone tells me he can't swim through star either.
Gladiator strength feats are greater than theirs... speed feat, durability feats. So honestly, what are you all using to determine anyone on team 2 pulling a majority against glads or beating him.
then post the scans that show he could take a majority from said high heralds, because the ones you posted aren't cutting it.
you didn't show that he was faster than orion and black adam in terms of combat speed. any other feats?
binary and j'onn aren't the same, and that logic doesn't exactly hold.
so where are these feats you keep talking about?
also? who they fought is an acceptable measurement of power if it's consistent.
Originally posted by -Pr-
then post the scans that show he could take a majority from said high heralds, because the ones you posted aren't cutting it.you didn't show that he was faster than orion and black adam in terms of combat speed. any other feats?
binary and j'onn aren't the same, and that logic doesn't exactly hold.
so where are these feats you keep talking about?
also? who they fought is an acceptable measurement of power if it's consistent.
Why would I post scans that you are going to discredit?
As for the combat speed. Can you show me anything suggesting that they are on glads level of speed from either orion or black adam?
Binary energy output is on an entirely different level vs martian manhunter. If mm can melt black adams face, binary should be able to take his head completely off with a blast. This is a girl that made a sun go super nova due to her energy source.
I disagree with the "who the fought" argument to a certain extent. Some people shouldn't be fighting certain beings.
Pr, I wasn't trying to debate this topic with you, especially Superman. The only thing this debate is going to lead to is me either receiving a warning or getting banned. I USE to enjoy debating topics like this with you but for some strange reason "lol" I think you are trying to catch me making mistakes, which again will lead to me getting band.
Originally posted by carver9
Why would I post scans that you are going to discredit?As for the combat speed. Can you show me anything suggesting that they are on glads level of speed from either orion or black adam?
Binary energy output is on an entirely different level vs martian manhunter. If mm can melt black adams face, binary should be able to take his head completely off with a blast. This is a girl that made a sun go super nova due to her energy source.
I disagree with the "who the fought" argument to a certain extent. Some people shouldn't be fighting certain beings.
Pr, I wasn't trying to debate this topic with you, especially Superman. The only thing this debate is going to lead to is me either receiving a warning or getting banned. I USE to enjoy debating topics like this with you but for some strange reason "lol" I think you are trying to catch me making mistakes, which again will lead to me getting band.
I don't discredit scans for the sake of discrediting them. that's the difference between us. your comment about gladiator's supposed combat speed illustrates that.
gladiator had trouble moving through a star. regardless of binary or j'onn, it's a feat plenty of high heralds can replicate.
who fought who is valid when there's consistency. it's the basis for a good percentage of the fights on the forum.
it's nothing to do with Superman, apart from the fact that both Adam and Orion fought him more than once.
I'm still waiting for any scan that illustrates that Gladiator could defeat Orion or Adam in hand to hand. The sad part is, I know he could give them a fight; Adam more-so. You're just not helping your side of the argument.