Odin in Destroyer Armor vs Chaos War Hercules

Started by Bentley10 pages

Originally posted by Slaanesh
u need to read it again..

no..Galactus didn't travel it..he just crated a device..reed can build something like that..it's nothing impressive..

I know he built a machine, surely the CK will build one too and return awesr

The same chaos kong that couldn't figure put where the skyfathers were?

Some multiversal threat he was... Didn't see akhenaton having that problem...

Originally posted by Bentley
I know he built a machine, surely the CK will build one too and return awesr

what are we discussing here??i thought we were saying Galactus isn't multiversal..how did it get to CK building a device??

Originally posted by rotiart
The same chaos kong that couldn't figure put where the skyfathers were?

Some multiversal threat he was... Didn't see akhenaton having that problem...

maybe he just possess the power to destroy everything..not omniscience..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
what are we discussing here??i thought we were saying Galactus isn't multiversal..how did it get to CK building a device??

I was not truly saying that Galactus is multiversal, not in this thread anyways, it was just a jab against Herc being multiversal.

Originally posted by Bentley
I was not truly saying that Galactus is multiversal, not in this thread anyways, it was just a jab against Herc being multiversal.

do u think CK is multiversal as in alternate universe??i think he was at first..but after seeing K-M argument..i think Cho was just saying about 616 and all its dimension..they did banish him to a universe and he was satisfied that he turn that universe into a void..not that multiversal it seems..

Personally I believe K-M's argument is the most reasonable, but I can't say for sure with Marvel ermm

If we stop to think about it, Herc as a supergod restored the freaking universe, even if it's 616 that's a hell of a feat that was never put in "Elder god" level.

I'm now wondering if all of the people here read all the tie-ins.As it stands out, Chaos War😘-men had the most significance in what happened in Chaos War#5.

In Chaos War😘-men#2, Here Destiny states that they must awaken the Primordial Forces who forms those worlds that sustains life.

Thunderbird(John Proudstar) links with the Thunderbird to awaken the Primordial Gods.

John prays to TOAA(again I'm not sure if this is Thee TOAA or a being who just has the same name.Then again, Becca claimed that TOAA answered her prayer when Thor defeated Glory).

If anything, Supergod Herc got assistance from Primordial Gods of creation in battling CK.And their power might have been responsible in restoring the Multiverse since they were stated to be the most ancient entities of creation itself.

You realize Gaea is the mother of all creation right?

Originally posted by rotiart
You realize Gaea is the mother of all creation right?

If you're talking about the incident in CW#4, here's what FVL and GP said about the Gaea and Pele moment.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/chaos-war-from-the-field-101223.html

Nrama: Moving to questions from Twitter, here’s one from Warden_JP: “Can we get an in-depth explanation of wut exactly Gaea did 2 our boy Herc? An where it places him on the totem poles?”

Pak: From the beginning of Chaos War #1, we’ve seen Herc running around with the power of an All-Father. But being Herc, he’s struggling to make sense of that power, figure out how to control it, and just come to terms with what it means to wield that kind of power. So he hasn’t always been able to wield it terribly efficiently, nor has he really come to grips with what having all that power really means in terms of responsibility. What happens when he goes into the Pool of Fire with Pele and Gaea is that the kind of truths of what it really means to be that kind of god are revealed to him. He finally burns away enough of himself to be able to see what it is to be this All-Father. He didn’t get a power-up in the sense of his powers increasing. It’s not like she invested him with new powers, she just opened his eyes to the power he has.

So Herc's true power up comes from the tie-in CW😘-men.And Gaea just gave Herc some sort of enlightenment in order for him to control his all-father powers.

^ Pretty sure "one above all" is a reference to the Thunderbird. Because, well, when he says it you see the Thunderbird above him. Also, he is asking them to take back the power he is tapping into, which at the moment, is the Thunderbird's and Gaea's.

And Pak's interview makes no reference to the true TOAA to explain Hercules' state post-enlightenment.

He was incinerated and he literally remade himself.....for just an intellect upgrade thats a tad overkill

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Pretty sure "one above all" is a reference to the Thunderbird. Because, well, when he says it you see the Thunderbird above him. Also, he is asking them to take back the power he is tapping into, which at the moment, is the Thunderbird's and Gaea's.

And Pak's interview makes no reference to the true TOAA to explain Hercules' state post-enlightenment.

To be honest, I was actually thinking this TOAA might just have the same name.Kinda like the Celestial who is also named One-Above-All.Or could be an Avatar of TOAA.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He was incinerated and he literally remade himself.....for just an intellect upgrade thats a tad overkill

When I grabbed CW#4 I was like "Okay?How will Gaea's power up be any help against CK?This doesn't make any sense at all?!"And when I saw that interview, I was like "WTF?!If that was just an intellect upgrade, how the heck did Supergod Herc gained the power to go toe to toe w/ CK?The unlettered previews of CW#5 doesn't make any sense!"Until I grabbed the tie-in CW😘-men that it made sense on how Herc was able to fight CK.Here's another thing I found out about the Chaos King.

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/articles/chaos_war_interview

CosmicBookNews: Can you tell us a bit about the Chaos King? With the Silver Surfer and Galactus involved, he must pose a pretty big threat, more so than we have seen of him as Mikaboshi? (Chaos King being Mikaboshi‘s true form finally revealed?) Galactus is said to be from before the Big Bang. Does the Chaos King predate that and is that why Galactus takes notice?

Fred Van Lente: Yes, you are correct – According to Japanese mythology, Amatsu-Mikaboshi is the Void that pre-dated all existence. All existence, even the universe that Galactus originates from. In his original, Terran form, he laid waste to Olympus and killed Zeus in the ARES mini-series.

Indeed, most likely the One Above All reference was a reference to Manitou...however, through diction, I think the writer used the term because she herself must have somewhere heard of the true One-Above-All...

However, anything is possible, though. The One-Above-All may very well have intervened, if in a more local aspect.