Odin in Destroyer Armor vs Chaos War Hercules

He was there to see the underworld dimensions be destroyed. He never saw other universes being destroyed.

Hercules makes a comment about how generates seeing things like amadeous... Yet resorts to punching things with his fists again... And never could thing of anything... Never proving his actual intelligence.

The only good proof anyone has offered so far is the argument that impossible mans ability to pop in and out of this universe was something chaos kong COULD do... Not that he ever did since we never saw more than one of any skyfather... And skyfathers are not like abstracts each universe has their own...

Early on chaos king talks of killing the gods of this universe and going after earths gods.... He doesn't say a certain universe or realm... He'll even Nate grey when he was fighting qabiri and earth hopping knew what part of the actual multiverse he was in...

Even the cancerverse showed us our universal opposites... Etc..

Originally posted by bbrem123
so they didnt get reports that nightmare was dead...or death fled her own realm...

@sr J

word got around...saying it didnt mean u obviously didnt read the comic

I'll play, now who told him that the other realities and universes were destroyed then?

TOAA

Originally posted by Mindset
TOAA

Originally posted by bbrem123
@sr J

word got around...saying it didnt mean u obviously didnt read the comic

Originally posted by bbrem123
what?...he was getting reports from everywhere and knew everything CK had previously destroy....and how fast he was gaining power...so no this statement is completely wrong...

A little different, isn't it?

Don't attack me because you can't prove your original statement.

And they knew Nightmare was dead because they saw it... I'm not even going to look into the Death thing because I don't care. Two cases don't equal "reports from everywhere".

Hey guys!I asked a question to Fred Van Lente on who's more powerful between Abraxas and the Chaos King.Here's his response.

http://twitter.com/

Me

Who is more powerful?Abraxas or the Chaos King?

FVL

Look to your avatar!

I figured if I asked him who is more powerful between Abraxas and Chaos King, this will settle the debate if CK's feats were only universal or multiversal.He gave a straight forward answer that puts CK>Abraxas. 💃

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
A little different, isn't it?

Don't attack me because you can't prove your original statement.

And they knew Nightmare was dead because they saw it... I'm not even going to look into the Death thing because I don't care. Two cases don't equal "reports from everywhere".

hahahahahah u dont care ok...whatever then no point in arguing when u didnt read the arc and dont care about evidence.....

Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
Hey guys!I asked a question to Fred Van Lente on who's more powerful between Abraxas and the Chaos King.Here's his response.

http://twitter.com/#!/nakawdangal/favorites

Me

FVL

I figured if I asked him who is more powerful between Abraxas and Chaos King, this will settle the debate if CK's feats were only universal or multiversal.He gave a straight forward answer that puts CK>Abraxas. 💃

Edited

Does any one around here freaking realize this thread is not about chaos king... It's about Hercules and Odin... K!? There's a reason I kept trying to drag this argument back to Hercules but everyone else keeps trying to derail it back to chaos king.

So back to op. Hercules wins.
If he's just universal he wins.
And if he was omfgthatsonespicymeatball multiversal godlike... Then he goes and spite stomps...

And since most here. Cough. Seem to be indirectly saying Hercules is multiversal this would be spite and should be closed. :-)

Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
Edited

You had an Abraxas avatar before, right? 😉

Originally posted by rotiart
Does any one around here freaking realize this thread is not about chaos king... It's about Hercules and Odin... K!? There's a reason I kept trying to drag this argument back to Hercules but everyone else keeps trying to derail it back to chaos king.

So back to op. Hercules wins.
If he's just universal he wins.
And if he was omfgthatsonespicymeatball multiversal godlike... Then he goes and spite stomps...

And since most here. Cough. Seem to be indirectly saying Hercules is multiversal this would be spite and should be closed. :-)

Agree with you on the name of the thread.The Chaos King only got dragged into this because Supergod Herc did fight him.And it gives the reason why Odin w/ Destroyer would lose to Supergod Herc.I read Chaos War😘-men#2.There is a possibility that Herc was powered by TOAA(again I'm not sure if this is thee TOAA.Then again, Becca stated Thor defeated Glory because of TOAA through prayer).

Originally posted by Bentley
You had an Abraxas avatar before, right? 😉

Nope!I only used the Samurai design of CK as an avatar and not his creepy regenerator/iron maiden design.I like Abraxas as well w/ that roman emperor design.I'm a fan of Multiversal Destroyers after all.

Originally posted by rotiart
Does any one around here freaking realize this thread is not about chaos king... It's about Hercules and Odin... K!? There's a reason I kept trying to drag this argument back to Hercules but everyone else keeps trying to derail it back to chaos king.

So back to op. Hercules wins.
If he's just universal he wins.
And if he was omfgthatsonespicymeatball multiversal godlike... Then he goes and spite stomps...

And since most here. Cough. Seem to be indirectly saying Hercules is multiversal this would be spite and should be closed. :-)

I think most arguments around Herc is that while he fought with the Chaos King the longest other much lesser fighters -such as Ares, Thor and others-, were also hanging in there. Herc couldn't have won that fight so he wouldn't be neither universal nor multiversal by the battle feats he showed.

His best feat would be restoring the universe/multiverse after the fight, argument that has been somewhat absent in this thread.

I can't believe people were contesting Amadeus' world. He was acting as a information tool for the writer. He said 98% of the Multiverse was destroyed. Someone would need hard evidence for that to be considered invalid besides not liking it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Once again the 616 universe is a multiverse, and even at the end they said they restored the "universe" at the end.

When someone says Multiverse, I assume Multiverse. As in, numerous dimensions and Universes at bare minimum.

They? That was mortal Hercules. Not to mention all of creation was the apparent scope as stated a few pages before that.

I don't care of the Chaos King was Multiversal or Universal. I have no preference or stake in it. But as it is, the Chaos King was Multiversal unless there is some hard evidence to proof otherwise.

At bare minimum the 616 was destroyed along with all connected dimensions ranging from Asgard, to hell.

Originally posted by K-M-
Yes you can destroy time/space in the universe that has happened before, that doesn't mean they destroyed all time/space in all the other universes.

This means what?

So far the arguments I've read can be summarized, as nuh uh, because, I don't like it etc.

When someone has some actual evidence instead of second guessing Cho or questioning the use of the Multiverse, I'll take a step back, reevaluate my position, and if need be, switch it. As it is, the Chaos King was Multiversal. Chaos War Hercules was Multiversal.

Actually, since Cho scanned several dimensions to search for Hercules we should assume he kind of knows at least a multiverse by the definition we use. So Cho is kind of a reliable source on this.

Point.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Chaos War Hercules was Multiversal. [/B]

So spite thread then. Close it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can't believe people were contesting Amadeus' world. He was acting as a information tool for the writer. He said 98% of the Multiverse was destroyed. Someone would need hard evidence for that to be considered invalid besides not liking it.

Once again the 616 universe has been called a multiverse. Cho need tech prior to scan the multiverse which would have taken him a billion years to scan it all, yet now he knows everything? Unlikely.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When someone says Multiverse, I assume Multiverse. As in, numerous dimensions and Universes at bare minimum.

They? That was mortal Hercules. Not to mention all of creation was the apparent scope as stated a few pages before that.

I don't care of the Chaos King was Multiversal or Universal. I have no preference or stake in it. But as it is, the Chaos King was Multiversal unless there is some hard evidence to proof otherwise.

At bare minimum the 616 was destroyed along with all connected
dimensions ranging from Asgard, to hell.

Except you don't know that, hence the debate. Once again the 616 universe has other universes connected to it, even the Realm of the Beasts is called a universe.

Which could have meant all creation in the UNIVERSE. They never mentioned the omniverse

Neither do I, but there is evidence to suggest he isn't multiversal. Honestly why would I care if he is or not? 😬

Definetly, but the entire multi-verse as in all the Asgards and all the Earths and all the Hells in the entire multi-verse? Unlikely from what they showed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This means what?

So far the arguments I've read can be summarized, as nuh uh, because, I don't like it etc.

When someone has some actual evidence instead of second guessing Cho or questioning the use of the Multiverse, I'll take a step back, reevaluate my position, and if need be, switch it. As it is, the Chaos King was Multiversal. Chaos War Hercules was Multiversal.

It means a universe can be destroyed while others...aren't. Not that hard to grasp really.

Really? Yeah that's what I have been saying 🙄

Basically everything you have said has been debated with evidence, and majority is siding with the whole multiverse being destroyed is vague or very unlikely and its not because we don't like it it's because they never showed anything outside of the 616 universe being destroyed and once again the 616 universe is called a multiverse.

Originally posted by Bentley
Actually, since Cho scanned several dimensions to search for Hercules we should assume he kind of knows at least a multiverse by the definition we use. So Cho is kind of a reliable source on this.

That was with magic and he gave that power up to Hercules (he lost his omnipotence just like Herc did in the end), and when he had tech he didn't even do it it was Banner and they both gave up as it took to long.