Bentley, it appears you don't understand what my issue is. It's not whether or not Thor is more durable. Rather, it's Icemans claim of:
"Herc can't stand up to 5 clean punches from Thor."
He pushes his opinion out there, and as you can see, he continues to respond, yet completely ignores my request for proof. I have proof on panel that Herc is more than durable enough to take punishment from Thor based on their own battles.
Yet he has zero evidence, and is too arrogant to even admit he made a mistake by pushing his OPINION as if it were fact.
I understand what you're saying, and you make a decent point. He on the other hand doesn't have a leg to stand on, and has become increasingly evasive in his debating - If you can call what he's doing that.
But in the many Herc vs. Thor battles, Thor has had a lot at stake, and has exerted himself against Herc. Yet Herc stood his ground and took the punishment, and served it back.
Is Thor more durable than Herc? Wouldn't surprise me if he was a bit more durable. Is he leaps and bounds beyond Herc? Based on their battles- The answer is no. They are quite evenly matched with Herc being slightly stronger (Maybe - Depends on the writer) and slightly more skilled, with Thor being the more powerful, and slightly more durable.
Written in stone? Nope. Comics are inconsistent of course. But based on what the fights show us, this is a fairly decent assessment.
Originally posted by Bentley
One problem about limiting our debating to battles between the two characters is that we would ignore the question we want to answer: [b]durability. Are battles between two heroes who respect each other and hold back pretty much all the time the only bar we should use to messure not who would win (which I haven't tried to answer as of yet), but how much punishment they can take.Do you agree with my reasoning? [/B]
Yea, I'm calling it quits. Seems this guy cannot distinguish between fact, and opinion. What's the point in arguing with someone that limited?
Thanks for chiming in though. Like I said, I agree with most of what you said, and see no problem with Thor being slightly more durable.
Now, to get things back on track with Hulk vs. Thor!
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, I was just addressing Thor's durability compared with Herc's which I felt was something worth noting about the argument. You can carry on with the rest of the discussion as you see fit.
Lol this troll the arguement is whether Thor is a better brawler until now the smuck never wanted me to prove Thor could ko Herc with 5 or 6 punches talk about spinning your arguement around 😆 . Bentley you can go back and check to see he wanted me to prove if Thor was physically superior to Herc thats what the fuss is about the guy is a typical troll
Originally posted by iceman24567Here was my original statement lol somebody needs the Reading Rainbow badly
Based on Thor being vastly more durable? Or arguably stronger? Faster too Herc is no doubt the better grappler and maybe more skilled but Thor physically is above him by a large margin hence in a brawl Thor would win as he does here
Originally posted by ctnn1
In other words, you're allowing you own personal opinion to trump the actual fights we've witnessed showing that Thor is not quite the fighter that Herc is? Again, Herc has beaten Thor 2 out of 2 times that I've seen, and I may be missing 1 more incident.Sorry, I'm going to have to go with on panel evidence on this one. Thor's "far above him strength" sure did fail to shine through the two times they went at it before! lol
iceman, here you made your ridiculous claim:
Originally posted by iceman24567
I'm not assuming anything in character they both would swing at eachother Herc "might" grapple if he feels hes losing but Thor kos him in in 5-6 clean punches and thats being generous.
here ctnn1 directly addresses that ridiculous claim and asks for proof:
Originally posted by ctnn1
You also state that Herc couldn't take Thors punches? Seriously? You realize they've fought on about 7 - 8 occasions before right? (Almost always a tie)
so I'm sure he's still waiting on proof that herc would get KOed by 5--6 punches from Thor 🙄
Originally posted by Starscream MSo you are going to jump on the band wagon? Let me post it again
iceman, here you made your ridiculous claim:here ctnn1 directly addresses that ridiculous claim and asks for proof:
so I'm sure he's still waiting on proof that herc would get KOed by 5--6 punches from Thor 🙄
Originally posted by iceman24567Here was my original statement lol somebody needs the Reading Rainbow badly
Based on Thor being vastly more durable? Or arguably stronger? Faster too Herc is no doubt the better grappler and maybe more skilled but Thor physically is above him by a large margin hence in a brawl Thor would win as he does here
Originally posted by ctnn1
In other words, you're allowing you own personal opinion to trump the actual fights we've witnessed showing that Thor is not quite the fighter that Herc is? Again, Herc has beaten Thor 2 out of 2 times that I've seen, and I may be missing 1 more incident.Sorry, I'm going to have to go with on panel evidence on this one. Thor's "far above him strength" sure did fail to shine through the two times they went at it before! lol
The back in forth arguement isn't about Thor being able to knock him out with 5 punches its about whether Herc is a better brawler but just for you i will go overboard right this second
Originally posted by Starscream MI'm not running away from anything pointing out how you jumped in without actually knowing what the argument was really about.
ok, so now you're running away from your statement that thor would KO herc in 5 punches...and that's 'being generous'?also, funny how when bentley supported you...you didn't accuse him of 'jumping on the bandwagon'....I guess its ok for people to interject as long as it helps you, right?
Not at all but atleast he apologized for not knowing the basis of the debate which you have yet to do good job?
Wow...
No one here has mentioned it, so I can only assume that no one here knows this; Thor can use his God Blast withoutMjolnir...he killed Durok in this fashion.
As a result, a Thor fighting to kill the Hulk (no PIS allowed here in a forum fight) kills him every single time and its not even close; Thor has no need of Warriors Madness to utterly destroy the Hulk here...even without his hammer.
Thor 10/10...FATALITY!!
Originally posted by Bentley👆 Thor holds back tremendously when fighting heroes Herc especially he respects him because he is a warrior and fellow god i am one of the people that thinks his hammer only slightly adds to his striking power this guy ctnn1 thinks highly of Thors opinion well here it is their third fight if I'm not mistaken and it just started Thors comments
One problem about limiting our debating to battles between the two characters is that we would ignore the question we want to answer: [b]durability. Are battles between two heroes who respect each other and hold back pretty much all the time the only bar we should use to messure not who would win (which I haven't tried to answer as of yet), but how much punishment they can take.Do you agree with my reasoning? [/B]
Honestly Thor holds back when he fights Herc saying 5-6 Clean punches from a non holding back Thor should ko him isn't ridiculous imo 😬
Originally posted by ctnn1
When it wasn't, he then doubled Abominations strength yet again, and Hulk still surpassed him. If my memory is serving me well, then Abomination started off with 4 times Hulks strength, then was boosted to 8 times his strength.Yet on a single page, when Hulk had enough, he easily jumped up to levels that surpassed Abomination and said something to the extent of "Doesn't matter if you're 10 times stronger, I'll just get 10 times madder!"
So from a quick skim, this ctnn1 dude believes Hercules to be superior to Thor?
Unfortunately, evidence points to Thor being superior to Hercules physically actually. Strength and durability included.
Regarding this thread. Thor wins. Worst case scenario, he goes Durok on his ass.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor58.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor60.jpg
IIRC, that was actually from their second fight. And Hercules ended up winning. Odin cut Thor's power in half.
I did like Hercules admitting that Thor is easily as strong as he is.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules14.jpg
Thor also beating him down to his knee didn't hurt either.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules17.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules18.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules19.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThank for the correction 👆 Yeah i didn't see that as a win for Herc since their was outside interference Thor could barely lift a freakin bulldozer 😆
IIRC, that was actually from their second fight. And Hercules ended up winning. Odin cut Thor's power in half.I did like Hercules admitting that Thor is easily as strong as he is.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules14.jpgThor also beating him down to his knee didn't hurt either.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules18.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules19.jpg
