Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Maybe? Accio summons it. "Accio," it flies off the Pred's shoulder and into Harry's hands.
Ok so are we assuming that Harry's shield can take the hit, allowing him to identify the cannon and yank it away -or- are we saying that Harry just knows its a threat and takes care of it? Also, can Accio yank object thats are affixed to something else? From what I remember it just summons things that are laying around or in someones pocket. Not anything that is bolted to a piece of armor that is strapped to a hulking alien.
Going back to Protego taking the hit....
A quick Wiki search
Protego (Shield Charm)
Pronunciation: /proʊˈteɪɡoʊ/ proh-TAY-goh
Description: The Shield Charm[20] causes minor to strong jinxes, curses, and hexes to rebound upon the attacker, or at least prevents them from having their full effect. It can also cause a shield to erupt from the caster's wand.
Seen/mentioned: First seen in Goblet of Fire, in which Harry Potter is taught this spell by Hermione Granger in preparation for the third task in the Triwizard Tournament. Also used throughout the series. Examples are in Order of the Phoenix when Harry blocks Snape's Legilimency after a lengthy Occlumency lessons and when Harry is duelling the Death Eaters. Harry later uses this spell in Half-Blood Prince to block Snape's jinx when he was showing Ron how to cast a spell without saying a word. Hermione later uses it in Deathly Hallows to separate Ron and Harry when they are fighting.
Suggested etymology: Latin protego meaning "to protect".[12]
Notes: Cannot block Avada Kedavra.
If Protego cannot block Avada Kedavra. Why would it be able to deflect something like a plasma blast which is equally as lethal?
Ok so are we assuming that Harry's shield can take the hit, allowing him to identify the cannon and yank it away -or- are we saying that Harry just knows its a threat and takes care of it? Also, can Accio yank object thats are affixed to something else? From what I remember it just summons things that are laying around or in someones pocket. Not anything that is bolted to a piece of armor that is strapped to a hulking alien.
I agree. If anything, it would pull the Pred along with the cannon. So the Pred would just shoot him while coming closer (still invisible).
Harry casts lumos maxima. The Predator fires at it, thinking it is Harry, giving away it's position. Harry vanishes it.
Pred's see via heat. Lumos maxima isn't heat. Ergo no.
Originally posted by mixednuts
Ok so are we assuming that Harry's shield can take the hit, allowing him to identify the cannon and yank it away -or- are we saying that Harry just knows its a threat and takes care of it? Also, can Accio yank object thats are affixed to something else? From what I remember it just summons things that are laying around or in someones pocket. Not anything that is bolted to a piece of armor that is strapped to a hulking alien.Going back to Protego taking the hit....
A quick Wiki search
Protego (Shield Charm)
Pronunciation: /proʊˈteɪɡoʊ/ proh-TAY-goh
Description: The Shield Charm[20] causes minor to strong jinxes, curses, and hexes to rebound upon the attacker, or at least prevents them from having their full effect. It can also cause a shield to erupt from the caster's wand.
Seen/mentioned: First seen in Goblet of Fire, in which Harry Potter is taught this spell by Hermione Granger in preparation for the third task in the Triwizard Tournament. Also used throughout the series. Examples are in Order of the Phoenix when Harry blocks Snape's Legilimency after a lengthy Occlumency lessons and when Harry is duelling the Death Eaters. Harry later uses this spell in Half-Blood Prince to block Snape's jinx when he was showing Ron how to cast a spell without saying a word. Hermione later uses it in Deathly Hallows to separate Ron and Harry when they are fighting.
Suggested etymology: Latin protego meaning "to protect".[12]
Notes: Cannot block Avada Kedavra.If Protego cannot block Avada Kedavra. Why would it be able to deflect something like a plasma blast which is equally as lethal?
Plsama has mass, dude. If something has mass, the protego blocks it. There are secnes in the movies that show objects with mass bouncing off a protego.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How does he not? Does he have knowledge? Kinda unfair if he has no knowledge.You know, all he has to do is cast a patronus, distract the Predator into firing away at it, then death spell it.
Well it is unfair but thats kind of the point to the hunt. The Predator choses targets that will give him a challenge but he doesn't give them an entire technical briefing on his weaponry before engaging. The idea is to see if Harry can not only survive but kill a previously unknown attacker.
Originally posted by mixednuts
Well it is unfair but thats kind of the point to the hunt. The Predator choses targets that will give him a challenge but he doesn't give them an entire technical briefing on his weaponry before engaging. The idea is to see if Harry can not only survive but kill a previously unknown attacker.
Mhm, the Pred chooses a worthy target, then toys with it a while before actually moving in to kill it. Predator 2 is an example of this.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Plsama has mass, dude. If something has mass, the protego blocks it. There are secnes in the movies that show objects with mass bouncing off a protego.
I'm not debating that it can deflect mass. What I'm wondering are the extent of the shields capabilities. A flak jacket can stop a 9mm round with ease, a 105mm shell fired from an M1 Abrams tank? Not so much.
Protego may stop a punch but I don't remember Ron Weasly possessing the strength to punch through Harry's chest like it was tissue paper.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's what they all did.In 1, Dutch was the target. The Pred worked his way up from the bottom of the food chain.
In Predators, the Preds could have easily killed Royce and the others at the camp, but didn't.
Also there is a difference between toying with someone and recklessly engaging a larger force.
I don't think Dutch or Royce were the intended targets. They were just the last ones standing. Remember the chick was also one of the last ones alive in predators and she was no more dangerous than the others.
Thats different for the stalking process like the "Danny's beads" taunt at the cemetary etc etc
They were ALL targets. And the predator nailed them one by one.
The toughest smartest survived til the end, as is natural.
Its like football/baseball championships are meant to be.. a winner emerges from the natural order of outcomes of everyone else staying in the competition as long as they can.
You dont immediately pick a winner at the beginning and say "F*** everybody else".
Predator will not have to hang back to see who is most worthy here.
So its wristblade rape time.
Originally posted by mixednuts
Also there is a difference between toying with someone and recklessly engaging a larger force.I don't think Dutch or Royce were the intended targets. They were just the last ones standing. Remember the chick was also one of the last ones alive in predators and she was no more dangerous than the others.
So here, the Predator is aware of Harrys powers, can blast from a long ways off, and Harry is unaware of the Preds powers AND it's presence?
Originally posted by mixednuts
Also there is a difference between toying with someone and recklessly engaging a larger force.I don't think Dutch or Royce were the intended targets. They were just the last ones standing. Remember the chick was also one of the last ones alive in predators and she was no more dangerous than the others.
This also.
She didnt have a weapon, so she was out of the game.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So here, the Predator is aware of Harrys powers, can blast from a long ways off, and Harry is unaware of the Preds powers AND it's presence?
Look, I'm not trying to horribly gimp HP but thats kind of how it works. Preddy finds a target, observes it for a time, then strikes. And I never said Preddy would be aware of everything HP can do. Even if he was it wouldn't matter much. Take the protego for example, lets say Preddy sees it and says to himself "Well shit, my cannon might be useless against that". What's he going to do? Fly back to his planet and enlist their engineers to develop new tech that will render it useless and then come back?
Lets say that protego can hold off a plasma blast for the sake of discussion (and I'm not saying it can. Never in the movies did any of the Dark Arts instructors say "hey, if you run into trouble just cast pretego and give the guy the finger". It was never referenced as all powerful or it would be used in every dual there was). Can HP keep it up indefinitely or does it drain him to use it?
And from there how would Harry actually defeat Preddy? Remember even without his cannon the Predator is an extremely formidable foe.