Jamie Maddrox melee with a twist

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Originally posted by inimalist

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I believe they glistened from deep within.

idk, are cosmic cubes powerful enough to take on the power of the gem?

because if so, man-thing with a cosmic cube could do it

Originally posted by 753
I believe they glistened from deep within.

lol, its probably my favorite moment in all comicdom. I think the writer does it really well, the whole play on total non-consciousness and absolute power /shrug

Im fairly certain the cubes could erase the gem along with cytorrak from reality. Whether man-thing would be able to use it properly is a different matter. Personally, I've always thought he is aware and intelligent in ways people just cant comprehend.

Originally posted by 753
Im fairly certain the cubes could erase the gem along with cytorrak from reality. Whether man-thing would be able to use it properly is a different matter. Personally, I've always thought he is aware and intelligent in ways people just cant comprehend.

its a strange type of intelligence

I doubt he'd be able to utilize it as in, have a desire to erase cytorrak, but if he were fighting Maddrox, I think he could use it to make him able to harm Jamie. And I totally think Multiple man would be afraid of him 🙂

Originally posted by 753
Im fairly certain the cubes could erase the gem along with cytorrak from reality. Whether man-thing would be able to use it properly is a different matter. Personally, I've always thought he is aware and intelligent in ways people just cant comprehend.
I doubt it could erase the gems. But yeah it could erase cyrotakk.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So you have one Madrox with a severered connection. The other couple thousand would still be as strong.

Until I see Cytorrak divying up his powers a thousand ways to a bunch of avatars then one is all thats needed

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Until I see Cytorrak divying up his powers a thousand ways to a bunch of avatars then one is all thats needed
One madrox has the gem. Whenever Madrox multiplies he had the properties of the person who duplicated him.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
One madrox has the gem. Whenever Madrox multiplies he had the properties of the person who duplicated him.

His power is the ability to create perfect duplicates, or "dupes", of himself, and all items on his person (clothing, weaponry, et cetera) through impact when he absorbs kinetic energy (although this sometimes has happened at will) through an unknown process. Most of the time, this is caused by him snapping his fingers, stomping his foot, being struck, or collisions. Each of the duplicates has exactly the same power as Jamie himself, and has independent thought, though Madrox "Prime" is usually telepathically and empathically linked to the dupes. His powers have, at least once, been shown to affect the actual design of the shirt he was wearing. I think that the only way to win a battle like this would be it someone had the ability to alter reality either with a cosmic cube or another such device. However this is a melee fight so strategy is pretty much out the window. A high level magic user like Dr. Strange might have some success in a comic book battle but again not in a melee. I honestly cant think of anyone in any universe that could survive a melee against potentially thousands of Juggernauts. Doomsday may not be able to be killed in a physical battle after Superman killed him, but he would never be able beat "Multiple-Naut".

yes, he'd be and even bigger pest than cloning lobo

The ruby gives you the power of one Juggernaut. Theoretically, each time he splits he'd divide his Juggernaut power up, like when Juggernaut gave some of his power to Tom Cassidy.

Then it comes down to balancing the amount of multiplying vs the power of the one character.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
The ruby gives you the power of one Juggernaut. Theoretically, each time he splits he'd divide his Juggernaut power up, like when Juggernaut gave some of his power to Tom Cassidy.

Then it comes down to balancing the amount of multiplying vs the power of the one character.

one ruby gives ou the power of one juggernaut. the op works on the assumption he can duplicate the ruby like he does his clothes, guns, etc.

Multiple rubies dividing up the set amount of power isn't any more appealing.

OP should outright say they are full powered Juggernauts to prevent people trying to cheat his rules.

Diablo with prep.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Multiple rubies dividing up the set amount of power isn't any more appealing.

OP should outright say they are full powered Juggernauts to prevent people trying to cheat his rules.

why would the amount of power be set as that of one ruby if there are more gems? regardless, cytorrak is supposed to funnel infinite ammounts of energy through the ruby.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
The ruby gives you the power of one Juggernaut. Theoretically, each time he splits he'd divide his Juggernaut power up, like when Juggernaut gave some of his power to Tom Cassidy.

Then it comes down to balancing the amount of multiplying vs the power of the one character.

this is my point exactly^

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Let us pretend that Jamie Maddrox a.k.a Multiple Man were to acquire the Gem of Cytorak and everything that comes with it: limitless stamina, psi-resistant armor, unstoppable momentum, impenetrable defensive shielding, etc. etc. Who, if anyone would be able to beat him?

op stated nothing about the subsequent dupes, stating simply that jamie had the gem

Originally posted by 753
one ruby gives ou the power of one juggernaut. the op works on the assumption he can duplicate the ruby like he does his clothes, guns, etc.

which to my knowledge is not within his powerset were that the case he could duplicate infinity gems, mjolnir, etc...do you have proof of him duplicating objects of such power?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
this is my point exactly^

op stated nothing about the subsequent dupes, stating simply that jamie had the gem

which to my knowledge is not within his powerset were that the case he could duplicate infinity gems, mjolnir, etc...do you have proof of him duplicating objects of such power?

No, but the op's intentions are clear enough to me. It would make no sense if the invulnerabilty spell didn't take on each of the duplicates. And again, cytorrak fuels him infinite energy when the two are getting along or cain isn't unconsciously restricting his power intake, so it shouldn't matter.

the op is vague neither suggesting nor denying your claim, but taking it at face value, imo it would seem that Jamie would have to power share similar to the wrecking crew........cytorrak is powerful and all but to feul that many dupes to classic juggernaut levels seems a bit extreme, and seeing as only the MM Prime is holding the gem and madrox cannot create another gem of equal power then i see no reason y the spell should transfer

Jonn for the easy win.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Jonn for the easy win.

There is that messy helmet which is created by the gem though.

Diablo with prep wins it though.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
His power is the ability to create perfect duplicates, or "dupes", of himself, and all items on his person (clothing, weaponry, et cetera) through impact when he absorbs kinetic energy (although this sometimes has happened at will) through an unknown process. Most of the time, this is caused by him snapping his fingers, stomping his foot, being struck, or collisions. Each of the duplicates has exactly the same power as Jamie himself, and has independent thought, though Madrox "Prime" is usually telepathically and empathically linked to the dupes. His powers have, at least once, been shown to affect the actual design of the shirt he was wearing. I think that the only way to win a battle like this would be it someone had the ability to alter reality either with a cosmic cube or another such device. However this is a melee fight so strategy is pretty much out the window. A high level magic user like Dr. Strange might have some success in a comic book battle but again not in a melee. I honestly cant think of anyone in any universe that could survive a melee against potentially thousands of Juggernauts. Doomsday may not be able to be killed in a physical battle after Superman killed him, but he would never be able beat "Multiple-Naut".
Exactly.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
The ruby gives you the power of one Juggernaut. Theoretically, each time he splits he'd divide his Juggernaut power up, like when Juggernaut gave some of his power to Tom Cassidy.

Then it comes down to balancing the amount of multiplying vs the power of the one character.

Except whenever he multiplies he has the exact same power as the original.

I know its an alternate universe but when Madrox was possessed by Wendigo when he multipled wendigos power didn't split up.

You'd have to fight potentially thousands of juggernauts here. And considering some people think even abstracts would have trouble hurting him I really don't see any non abstract being this powerhouse.