Originally posted by 753
why would the amount of power be set as that of one ruby if there are more gems? regardless, cytorrak is supposed to funnel infinite ammounts of energy through the ruby.
Originally posted by 753
No, but the op's intentions are clear enough to me. It would make no sense if the invulnerabilty spell didn't take on each of the duplicates. And again, cytorrak fuels him infinite energy when the two are getting along or cain isn't unconsciously restricting his power intake, so it shouldn't matter.
To be perfectly honest, there's a very real possibility that the system has changed since Juggernaut was repowered, but originally the gem was described almost like a battery. It wasn't like a hose leading from Cyttorak's tank to Juggernaut's tank, what he had is what he had. That's why sharing with Tom Cassidy cost him a lower level cap.
The sense of it would be if you were clever and knew your comics you could bring up interesting angles to how these battles could take place and discuss the possibilities instead of just ramming them together like toy trucks and arguing who has the best stats.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except whenever he multiplies he has the exact same power as the original.I know its an alternate universe but when Madrox was possessed by Wendigo when he multipled wendigos power didn't split up.
You'd have to fight potentially thousands of juggernauts here. And considering some people think even abstracts would have trouble hurting him I really don't see any non abstract being this powerhouse.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvisgoing by the most recent descriptions I've read.
To be perfectly honest, there's a very real possibility that the system has changed since Juggernaut was repowered, but originally the gem was described almost like a battery. It wasn't like a hose leading from Cyttorak's tank to Juggernaut's tank, what he had is what he had. That's why sharing with Tom Cassidy cost him a lower level cap.The sense of it would be if you were clever and knew your comics you could bring up interesting angles to how these battles could take place and discuss the possibilities instead of just ramming them together like toy trucks and arguing who has the best stats.
I t wouldnt be har at all to find characters that can take out one juggernaut's worth of power divided among several beings. I believe the OP proposed a more challenging question. ways to get arround the power of an army of self-replicating juggernauts can be found, they just demand you be more clever and know more comics.
Originally posted by Doctor-AlvisSort of. He doesn't cause other people to be Wendigos but IIRC its a curse that possesses mortals. And whoever kills the wendigo becomes the new wendigo.
What is the nature of Wendigos possession? Is it an outside power source? I'm admittedly in the dark here, but the wiki describes it as more of a werewolf type scenario.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
If you guys remember, when Jugs shared his power with his buddy Black Tom, the power of the gem split into two with both of them sharing equal halves.I see this happening with MM as well.
exactly, there is no infinite well of power that he can draw from, if hes struck the power should continue to divide until it is no longer beneficial for him to replicate
Originally posted by Sin I AMExcept jamies dupes have the exact same power as the original. It wouldn't split the powers up. It would be potentiall thousands of juggernauts.
exactly, there is no infinite well of power that he can draw from, if hes struck the power should continue to divide until it is no longer beneficial for him to replicate
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI haven't seen an instance where Madrox did NOT replicate with the exact same powerset and items/cloths that he started with.
^Since when has Madrox ever been that powerful? I've never seen him replicate an item like Cytorrak's Gem along with the power contained within.
And both cain and Jamie are mutants so there is no reason he couldn't actually use the gem.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except jamies dupes have the exact same power as the original. It wouldn't split the powers up. It would be potentiall thousands of juggernauts.
dude i understand that, HOWEVER Jamie is not capable of duplicating artifacts...how the hell is cytorrak going to power a thousand...or hell even ten CLASSIC juggs without his power waning?...your assuming he can when he's never been displayed to do so
Originally posted by Sin I AMThe Gem is only powering the original. But each of the dupes has the power of the original.
dude i understand that, HOWEVER Jamie is not capable of duplicating artifacts...how the hell is cytorrak going to power a thousand...or hell even ten CLASSIC juggs without his power waning?...your assuming he can when he's never been displayed to do so
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I haven't seen an instance where Madrox did NOT replicate with the exact same powerset and items/cloths that he started with.And both cain and Jamie are mutants so there is no reason he couldn't actually use the gem.
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GTFO with that no limit fallacy. It doesn't work that way.
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Originally posted by Black bolt z
The Gem is only powering the original. But each of the dupes has the power of the original.
Cain Marko formed a close partnership with Black Tom Cassidy and they would often battle their opponents together for the following months and years. Shortly before Black Tom’s birthday, the Juggernaut had an idea for what would make for a rather unique birthday present and he went to Korea to retrieve the Gem that gave him his powers. He entered the temple with ease and got what he came for, the Korean army standing in his way not even slowing him down. When Tom opened the gift and touched the glowing gem, he was transformed into another Juggernaut. However, both of them had only half of the original’s powers. Black Tom didn’t like this one bit and engaged his ally in a brief battle, which was then interrupted by Spider-Man and the X-Men. Rogue leeched off Cassidy’s Juggernaut powers and, later, Cain Marko reclaimed the full set when he touched the ruby a second time. Realizing that the ruby was not only the source of his strength but could also be used to take away from him, the Juggernaut decided to hurl it into space, where nobody could use it.
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