Jamie Maddrox melee with a twist

Originally posted by Sin I AM
lol at Cain being a mutie?...........

oh yea and ummmmmmmmmmm

😮‍💨 .............where the f** is KingCastle lol, i owe that douche a spankin

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

GTFO with that no limit fallacy. It doesn't work that way.

facepalmx2

its not a no limits fallacy although I see how it could be seen as one. Its on panel fact.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Cain Marko formed a close partnership with Black Tom Cassidy and they would often battle their opponents together for the following months and years. Shortly before Black Tom’s birthday, the Juggernaut had an idea for what would make for a rather unique birthday present and he went to Korea to retrieve the Gem that gave him his powers. He entered the temple with ease and got what he came for, the Korean army standing in his way not even slowing him down. When Tom opened the gift and touched the glowing gem, he was transformed into another Juggernaut. However, both of them had only half of the original’s powers. Black Tom didn’t like this one bit and engaged his ally in a brief battle, which was then interrupted by Spider-Man and the X-Men. Rogue leeched off Cassidy’s Juggernaut powers and, later, Cain Marko reclaimed the full set when he touched the ruby a second time. Realizing that the ruby was not only the source of his strength but could also be used to take away from him, the Juggernaut decided to hurl it into space, where nobody could use it.

Marvel Team-Up (1st series) #150

I'm so glad you remember this issue number cause I sure didnt. I was just gonna describe the issue and wait til someone came in that remember where it was. :-P

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What no limit fallacy? Theres no reason Jamie can't use the power of the gem. And all of jamies dupes have the same power as the original.

its not a no limits fallacy although I see how it could be seen as one. Its on panel fact.

What "no limit fallacy"? Did you forget what you typed just a mere post ago?

You've never seen Madrox ever duplicate anything as powerful as the Gem and yet you assume he can simply because he can duplicate mundane shit like clothes and firearms without any problem.

Okay, then post the panel in which he duplicates something as powerful as the gem.

Originally posted by rotiart
I'm so glad you remember this issue number cause I sure didnt. I was just gonna describe the issue and wait til someone came in that remember where it was. :-P

no problem sugah 😉 , yet u will still have people arguing MM will be able to create thousands of multi-nauts . Id pick someone like Thing, and when Jamies power divides drains his strength down to spiderman level, id curbstomp em...in actuality those two powersets conflict if you think about it

Don't diss spiderman.. He can summon the spiders!!!

Oh and he beat up firelord...
I seem to remember him using that in a fight reference before too.

But I'd be more afraid of a gamma irradiated Jamie... Healing factor.. You hit him and he splits again? Omg

We should all petition Marvel to do a "What if?"

Originally posted by Brockalizer
We should all petition Marvel to do a "What if?"

Too late. Marvel does what if's all the time. Lol.
Be more specific. 😄

Originally posted by rotiart
Too late. Marvel does what if's all the time. Lol.
Be more specific. 😄

Originally posted by 753
going by the most recent descriptions I've read.

I t wouldnt be har at all to find characters that can take out one juggernaut's worth of power divided among several beings. I believe the OP proposed a more challenging question. ways to get arround the power of an army of self-replicating juggernauts can be found, they just demand you be more clever and know more comics.

Manhunter would probably be the easiest choice. Unless this is a 100% pure melee thing.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Not really. If you can beat one Juggernaut you just need a little extra umph to beat them all.

Manhunter would probably be the easiest choice. Unless this is a 100% pure melee thing.

Psi-resistant helmet. 😛

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Not really. If you can beat one Juggernaut you just need a little extra umph to beat them all.

Manhunter would probably be the easiest choice. Unless this is a 100% pure melee thing.

CIS-free Surfer prolly could. ;P

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
CIS-free Surfer prolly could. ;P

When Black Tom shared the power of the Juggernaut through the gem, he gained half the power and Juggie lost half. The more multipleman duplicates that exist the more spread out the power would be.

With 10,000 duplicates many heroes (once they can fight on that scale) could take them out

oh, just saw this mentioned higher up in the thread

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What "no limit fallacy"? Did you forget what you typed just a mere post ago?

You've never seen Madrox ever duplicate anything as powerful as the Gem and yet you assume he can simply because he can duplicate mundane shit like clothes and firearms without any problem.

Okay, then post the panel in which he duplicates something as powerful as the gem.

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I don't have to prove that he can't, you have to prove that he can. Or concede.

Seeing as how you can't, concession accepted.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
His power is the ability to create perfect duplicates, or "dupes", of himself, and all items on his person (clothing, weaponry, et cetera) through impact when he absorbs kinetic energy (although this sometimes has happened at will) through an unknown process. Most of the time, this is caused by him snapping his fingers, stomping his foot, being struck, or collisions. Each of the duplicates has exactly the same power as Jamie himself, and has independent thought, though Madrox "Prime" is usually telepathically and empathically linked to the dupes. His powers have, at least once, been shown to affect the actual design of the shirt he was wearing. I think that the only way to win a battle like this would be it someone had the ability to alter reality either with a cosmic cube or another such device. However this is a melee fight so strategy is pretty much out the window. A high level magic user like Dr. Strange might have some success in a comic book battle but again not in a melee. I honestly cant think of anyone in any universe that could survive a melee against potentially thousands of Juggernauts. Doomsday may not be able to be killed in a physical battle after Superman killed him, but he would never be able beat "Multiple-Naut".

Originally posted by Uriel005
the gem is not the source of power it's just the link to the power. You divy up the juggernaut several thousand times and he will be perhaps at wreckers level if you want to high end Jugg strength.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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I don't have to prove that he can't, you have to prove that he can. Or concede.

Seeing as how you can't, concession accepted.