Zeus vs Hulk/Superman... fist fight

Originally posted by janus77
It's worth noting that the 'House of Hulk' that's developed is actually a portion of his own powers, divested to the Reds. and the Blue.. He didn't get all his power back (from what was seen at the climax of WWH), when he reabsorbed the gamma, towards the end of Fall of The Hulks. So it probably is true that he currently is not operating at "full power". Also, of course, he wasn't even remotely close to "World Breaker" levels at all during that fight.

The whole thing of having lasting wounds is contrary to everything that happened in WWH and Planet Hulk. The only logical explanation is that (the seemingly amped up) Zeus' magic negated/affected Hulk's HF greatly.

For outright damage, I can't think of anyone who's done more, per attack, than ZomStrange and, as everyone knows and acknowledges, he healed up from that in a panel or two.

Hulk received all of the Gamma energy lost including the Cosmic energy drained from Thor, the Silver Surfer, the Watcher etc. Barring the amount needed to transform Ross into Rulk.

If he wasn't at the level of World Breaker, he was definitely at his World War Hulk levels.

I'd wager on World Breaker -at least initially- however as we even get an almost exact scene similar to when he first emerged. Banner also said that this was the Hulk that nearly broke the world, the strongest Hulk there ever was (High five Carver?) and all that other crap.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk received all of the Gamma energy lost including the Cosmic energy drained from Thor, the Silver Surfer, the Watcher etc.

Unfortunately I don't have the comics on hand but it occurred during the final part of the World War Hulks arc. Incredible Hulks #610 and #611. After the Leader took the Gamma energy drained from World Breaker along with the Cosmic energy drained from Rulk, they bathed the heroes and their solders in it, hulking them out. Banner then reabsorbed all that power, and it powered up the energy in his cells to 100%. Boom, Hulk is back.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
wut?

When did Hulk receive "cosmic powers" from Thor et al?
If he had, don't you think Thor would have... died?

The device was reabsorbing the +gamma+ that Intelligencia had siphoned off from Banner during the WBH event and had imbued all the army and heroes with.

At no stage was it stated that Hulk was absorbing their "cosmic energies". That's Rulk, he absorbed Surfer's and (it is implied) Thor's "cosmic energies".

Oh and furthermore, Samson died absorbing a portion of the gamma energies, so therefore Banner definitely did not get back his true "WBH" levels.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Unfortunately I don't have the comics on hand but it occurred during the final part of the World War Hulks arc. Incredible Hulks #610 and #611. After the Leader took the Gamma energy drained from World Breaker along with the Cosmic energy drained from Rulk, they bathed the heroes and their solders in it, Hulking them out. Banner then reabsorbed all that power, and it powered up the energy in his cells to 100%. Boom, Hulk is back.

Remember, Spiderman, Deadpool, Thor et al were returned to their normal levels after the machine took effect. If it had been absorbing other energies, then Spiderman, Thor et al would have either died or been shown to be significantly weaker than normal, afterwards.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Unfortunately I don't have the comics on hand but it occurred during the final part of the World War Hulks arc. Incredible Hulks #610 and #611. After the Leader took the Gamma energy drained from World Breaker along with the Cosmic energy drained from Rulk, they bathed the heroes and their solders in it, hulking them out. Banner then reabsorbed all that power, and it powered up the energy in his cells to 100%. Boom, Hulk is back.

banner re-absorbed everything the cathexis ray controlled which was the hulked out douches, modok, the leader, samson, and the residual energy they took from hulk

red hulk retained the energy he stole from dumb hulk

Originally posted by janus77
I think someone's been crayoning over their comics again 😕

When did Hulk receive "cosmic powers" from Thor et al?
If he had, don't you think Thor would have... died?

The device was reabsorbing the +gamma+ that Intelligencia had siphoned off from Banner during the WBH event and had imbued all the army and heroes with.

At no stage was it stated that Hulk was absorbing their "cosmic energies". That's Rulk, he absorbed Surfer's and (it is implied) Thor's "cosmic energies".

Oh and furthermore, Samson died absorbing a portion of the gamma energies, so therefore Banner definitely did not get back his true "WBH" levels.

Originally posted by janus77
I figured you were referring to that incident. No, the machine reabsorbed only the +gamma+ energies that it had given to them in order to "Hulk them out".

Remember, Spiderman, Deadpool, Thor et al were returned to their normal levels after the machine took effect. If it had been absorbing other energies, then Spiderman, Thor et al would have either died or been shown to be significantly weaker than normal, afterwards.

Bro, it was made specifically clear that the Leader and co. bathed the heroes in both Cosmic and Gamma radiation. The Cosmic energy came from Rulk's encounters with the cosmic beings and it had been stored. Rulk later theorized that they allowed those encounters to happen specifically for that power.

Unfortunately this was the only scan I could find:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d64c6584757179

Too lazy to download the issues. I probably will eventually if you press the matter.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
pretty sure galactus took all of red hulk's additional power.

Apparently not.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
banner re-absorbed everything the cathexis ray controlled which was the hulked out douches, modok, the leader, samson, and the residual energy they took from hulk

red hulk retained the energy he stole from dumb hulk

Banner reabsorbed the energy from the Cathexis Ray -drained from the World Breaker- along with the cosmic energy flowing through the Hulked out heroes.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Let me correct one thing Rage.. Thor never fought Zeus to a stalemate... Zeus was TEACHING him a lesson not going all out. It's not a big accomplishment to last against somebody not trying to put you down only test your will and resolve

You can't prove anymore than I can't prove that he was going easy on Thor to teach him a lesson.

Hulk did have trouble against the destroyer powered by Maestro. Thor has never had that much trouble with the Destroyer. Thor<Hulk

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
I actually read that more along the lines of "I whooped that boy good, he ain' gon' come round ma porch no' mo' ". Mentally scarred, not physically. Maybe I just misread though.

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👆 Thanks bro. I told you f*ggots it was both a combination of Gamma and Cosmic energy. To be fair, Leonard absorbed some, but it was very small in comparison to Banner's portion I'd wager.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Thor has never had that much trouble with the Destroyer. Thor<Hulk

The Destroyer f*cking wrecked Hulk IIRC. Thor's never gotten a beating that bad barring two incidents when it was amped. In both he came out looking better than the Hulk imho and he matched it in the second when going all out.

actually, no more thor talk right now

that's the usual tangent

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Hulk did have trouble against the destroyer powered by Maestro. Thor has never had that much trouble with the Destroyer.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
👆 Thanks bro. I told you f*ggots it was both a combination of Gamma and Cosmic energy. To be fair, Leonard absorbed some, but it was very small in comparison to Banner's portion I'd wager.

where in "regammification" is the word "cosmic energy"?
It's pretty blatant that Banner was absorbing only Gamma energies (reducing Cho et al, back to their normal selves).

Originally posted by psycho gundam
actually, no more thor talk right now

that's the usual tangent

Sorry. For the record, in that scan you posted, there were two souls in the Destroyer which I think amped it. Done now.

What exactly happened when Thor's arm was broken by the Destroyer? He looked pretty bad in that one.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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Bah I have that issue he took Thors hammer. That is like the Surfer without his board. Hulk got beat down. Those pics prove nothing.