Soulfire Darkseid vs. Chaos King

Chaos King did seem to be able to enter other dimensions/realms on a whim.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Death of the New Gods was better? 😂 That Source Entity was weaksauce.

Let's be honest.

Half of the source entity did create the multiverse though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Chaos King did seem to be able to enter other dimensions/realms on a whim.

Not really, he needed Herc to open the "door" at the start of the Chaos War to get to the gods.

IIRC, he only needed Hercules to find the Gods as he did not have Omnipotence like Hercules does.

Entering realms didn't seem to be a problem like we saw in the Chaos King one shot.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC, he only needed Hercules to find the Gods as he did not have Omnipotence like Hercules does.

Entering realms didn't seem to be a problem like we saw in the Chaos King one shot.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC, he only needed Hercules to find the Gods as he did not have Omnipotence like Hercules does.

Entering realms didn't seem to be a problem like we saw in the Chaos King one shot.

What Hercules revealed was the gateway to all the god realms. That hiding place Hercules showed and ultimately opened was CK's key to access anywhere.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar3004.jpg

CK and his army physically went through the window Hercules opened so it wasn't like he opened it on his own power or just a simple reveal of where they were hiding.

Originally posted by -K-M-
What Hercules revealed was the gateway to all the god realms. That hiding place Hercules showed and ultimately opened was CK's key to access anywhere.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar3004.jpg

CK and his army physically went through the window Hercules opened so it wasn't like he opened it on his own power or just a simple reveal of where they were hiding.

You have a point, but as I understood, they completely sealed of their own realms, including the secret passages. Without a direct access to their realms, traversing them is a hell of a job even if you have capabilities Thor if Asgard is any indication.

And like I said, from what I remember of the one shot, he had no problem entering divine realms such as the Gods of Surfer's planet or Hell etc.

Originally posted by MrMind
omnipotence? you mean omniscience right?

Yea, my bad.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Half of the source entity did create the multiverse though.

Not really, he needed Herc to open the door at the start of the Chaos War to get to the gods.

Its not because he couldn't teleport to the throne room of the Council Elite.But because the Council Elite hid themselves from the Chaos King as seen here.

Granted the Chaos King lacked Omniscience which Hercules has.The Chaos King went in Nightmare's realm,to Hell, and teleproted to take advantage of Snowbird's pawnage of the Great Beast.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You have a point, but as I understood, they completely sealed of their own realms, including the secret passages. Without a direct access to their realms, traversing them is a hell of a job even if you have capabilities Thor if Asgard is any indication.

And like I said, from what I remember of the one shot, he had no problem entering divine realms such as the Gods of Surfer's planet or Hell etc.

They sealed off the throne room not their own realms. I'm pretty sure that was never said.

We don't know anything about Zenla's realm though. Hell is fairly easy to acess though. Seemed like the Zenla battle could have been in astral form as it appeared one of the kids looked up and could see the battle above their planet

Originally posted by -K-M-
Half of the source entity did create the multiverse though.

Originally posted by Igniz
Its not because he couldn't teleport to the throne room of the Council Elite.But because the Council Elite hid themselves from the Chaos King as seen here.

Granted the Chaos King lacked Omniscience which Hercules has.The Chaos King went in Nightmare's realm,to Hell, and teleproted to take advantage of Snowbird's pawnage of the Great Beast.

Yet he used Hercules portal he opened to access it as it was sealed off to him.

I just explained a few of the relams and he never showed to teleport in to fight the Beasts.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What? By manipulating Alexander Luthor?

Nope, I'll get the scan. It was the first multiverse before Alexandar "recreated" it. Well technically Mr.Mind brought back the multiverse for good but whatever

^ The first Multiverse was created when Krona performed his experiment. IIRC, the Source needed Luthor (and I guess Mr Mind) to recreate the Multiverse.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ The first Multiverse was created when Krona performed his experiment.

Retcon naturally, which that feat with half of the Source's power was retconned already (Monitors). However, it shows the powerlevel of the Source was operating at in that mini.

^ You mean getting stalemated by the combined power of the New Gods?

didnt synnar create the multiverse as well? too many beings in dc that can do this and too many retcons.

the new gods are abstracts though. the true ones are

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
the new gods are abstracts though. the true ones are

No.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You mean getting stalemated by the combined power of the New Gods?

Well yeah considering what they power was said to do I'm not suprised also as noted the source was "lax"

Originally posted by Prep-Man
didnt synnar create the multiverse as well? too many beings in dc that can do this and too many retcons.

Yep, retcon after retcon.

Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
👆 It seems people don't pay attention to context this days.Lets see the tag lines in Chaos War#5

CHAOS KING TRIUMPHANT! or The Universe dies and everybody wins!huh?

The Chaos King was content in the Continuum/Bubble Universe that he was sent to.He wasn't struggling to get out of the Continuum/Bubble Universe that was separate from the Multiverse.Besides, how the heck do you beat something that Death has no Jurisdiction on.CK made Death flee the Multiverse.CK is the only villain I know who got what he wanted in the end.Its more of "wont" than "can't".

Wont=You are capable of doing it but you choose not to.

Can't=You try to do it but it is beyond what you're capable of.