Originally posted by -K-M-
Also that somehow proves he teleported in to fight the Beasts when his army seconds before entered earth through a portal yet he didn't use that portal as he teleported in instead? uh huh.
Oh yeah.Since it took a lot of panels of The Great Beast fighting CK's minions and CK wasn't in sight.CK didn't face The Great Beast face to face.And he only appeared to take advantage of The Great Beast Getting pawned.The question is, did you read all of the tie-ins and the main series?The Chaos King killed Nightmare and used his power to put the people of earth to a wake/sleep state.He absorbed Impossible Man who once "TELEPORTED" into the real world twice and who also "TELEPORTED" were CK was residing.Unless you wanna say CK doesn't have the ability to use the powers of other beings he killed/absorbed.Chaos War#1 and Chaos War:Chaos King proves my point CK can teleport.Add Chaos War:Alpha Flight to that.
Originally posted by Igniz
Oh yeah.Since it took a lot of panels of The Great Beast fighting CK's minions and CK wasn't in sight.CK didn't face The Great Beast face to face.And he only appeared to take advantage of The Great Beast Getting pawned.The question is, did you read all of the tie-ins and the main series?The Chaos King killed Nightmare and used his power to put the people of earth to a wake/sleep state.He absorbed Impossible Man who once "TELEPORTED" into the real world twice and who also "TELEPORTED" were CK was residing.Unless you wanna say CK doesn't have the ability to use the powers of other beings he killed/absorbed.Chaos War#1 and Chaos War:Chaos King proves my point CK can teleport.Add Chaos War:Alpha Flight to that.
Why is it so hard for you to grasp? on-panel statements do not support you and what your doing is pure speculation. They said he and his army were fighting the beasts...and yet you keep ignoring that detail. Lulz? did you actually pull that card? Clearly I have and referenced scenes you incorrectly stated. Yeah that's fantastic now did we see CK actually teleport? Nope. Could he? Perhaps but never showed that ability.
Wow no it doesn't, you have the worst proof for that. Sure it was said CK AND his army was fighting the beasts, and sure seconds before his army used a portal to enter earth yet heaven forbid CK actually used the same portal his army did which as shown in ALL the ties in and main series he never leaves his army. You using that scene as proof he teleported against the beasts... fail.
Following your logic guess CK wasn't powerful enough to fight the beasts on his own or maybe he was scared? as by your logic he only teleported in when Snowbird did that attack at the exact second? weak arguement
Originally posted by -K-M-
Why is it so hard for you to grasp? on-panel statements do not support you and what your doing is pure speculation. They said he and his army were fighting the beasts...and yet you keep ignoring that detail. Lulz? did you actually pull that card? Clearly I have and referenced scenes you incorrectly stated. Yeah that's fantastic now did we see CK actually teleport? Nope. Could he? Perhaps but never showed that ability.Wow no it doesn't, you have the worst proof for that. Sure it was said CK AND his army was fighting the beasts, and sure seconds before his army used a portal to enter earth yet heaven forbid CK actually used the same portal his army did which as shown in ALL the ties in and main series he never leaves his army. You using that scene as proof he teleported against the beasts... fail.
Following your logic guess CK wasn't powerful enough to fight the beasts on his own or maybe he was scared? as by your logic he only teleported in when Snowbird did that attack at the exact second? weak arguement
I read somewhere in an interview that Chaos War:Alpha Flight happened in between Chaos War#3 and #4.So the Chaos King isn't as powerful as we see in Chaos War:Alpha Flight as compared to his appearance in CW#4 were he grew so large that he could squash Earth in his grip although blinded by his own darkness according to Pele.So the Great Beast could have a chance of defeating or stalemating CK in CW:Alpha Flight.We will never know.In the first page of CW#4, Alpha Flight was taking on The Great Beast that are now enslaved by CK.
Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
I read somewhere in an interview that Chaos War:Alpha Flight happened in between Chaos War#3 and #4.So the Chaos King isn't as powerful as we see in Chaos War:Alpha Flight as compared to his appearance in CW#4 were he grew so large that he could squash Earth in his grip although blinded by his own darkness according to Pele.So the Great Beast could have a chance of defeating or stalemating CK in CW:Alpha Flight.We will never know.In the first page of CW#4, Alpha Flight was taking on The Great Beast that are now enslaved by CK.
There is a issue guidlelist in every CW issue and yes AF is between 3 and 4. Also yes he definetly wasn't at the power he was at CW #5, but he still killed Satan and various other pantheons before AF so him merely teleporting in at that exact second is unlikely and more unlikely as there was a portal already opened that his army used to enter earth. Plus in the issue they mentioned he was there with his army and if he did teleport (no proof) it would indicate CK couldn't beat the Beasts straight up.
Originally posted by -K-M-
There is a issue guidlelist in every CW issue and yes AF is between 3 and 4. Also yes he definetly wasn't at the power he was at CW #5, but he still killed Satan and various other pantheons before AF so him merely teleporting in at that exact second is unlikely and more unlikely as there was a portal already opened that his army used to enter earth. Plus in the issue they mentioned he was there with his army and if he did teleport (no proof) it would indicate CK couldn't beat the Beasts straight up.
With Snowbird's testament on how powerful The Great Beasts, Its clear that The Great Beasts becomes more powerful while on Earth while other Pantheons of Gods weakens while being in the Earth Realm.The Great Beasts did better than the denizens of hell.Not to mention The Chaos King was in his Mikaboshi/Terran Form.So its clear that the Great Beast(while on Earth) is>>Satan at least.So if The Great Beasts fought The Chaos King personally in Chaos War:Alpha Flight, the outcome could be a Stalemate to say the least.So we get an example on how cunning The Chaos King really is.Why would you face an enemy that could stalemate you when you can wait for the right moment to strike?Hence that's why he suddenly popped out of nowhere to take advantage of Snowbird's pawning of The Great Beasts.If were talking about the Chaos King in CW#4, The Great Beasts are gonna be snacks to him.I think the other poster would agree with me.
Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
With Snowbird's testament on how powerful The Great Beasts, Its clear that The Great Beasts becomes more powerful while on Earth while other Pantheons of Gods weakens while being in the Earth Realm.The Great Beasts did better than the denizens of hell.Not to mention The Chaos King was in his Mikaboshi/Terran Form.So its clear that the Great Beast(while on Earth) is>>Satan at least.So if The Great Beasts fought The Chaos King personally in Chaos War:Alpha Flight, the outcome could be a Stalemate to say the least.So we get an example on how cunning The Chaos King really is.Why would you face an enemy that could stalemate you when you can wait for the right moment to strike?Hence that's why he suddenly popped out of nowhere to take advantage of Snowbird's pawning of The Great Beasts.If were talking about the Chaos King in CW#4, The Great Beasts are gonna be snacks to him.I think the other poster would agree with me.
One Great Beast in Hercules was taking on the army themselves (wasn't one of the Great Beasts in the one-shot sadly). I'm a fan of the beasts but to say their greater then Satan is a hard pill to swallow. Rest of your post was speculation so dont really need to address
I would agree as well, CK wasn't at full power but prior to the AF tie-in he was destroying dimensions and countless gods and bam he has to wait for someone else to beat the Beasts before he would fight them? Unlikely.
Personally, I think they both lose due to epic garbage writing and piss poor design. However, as Mungi points out, the GB are vastly more powerful on earth. Didn't we argue about whether they could beat Shuma in his own realm?
Anyways, Soulfire DS had better feats. The Source is an aspect of the Presence. That's DS stalemating something alot bigger than Eternity. Not to mention the entire execrable storyline, from the small snippets I've seen, looks to be a failed attempt by Marvel to try and create their own Final Crisis.
Wassa Mungi. durwave
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Personally, I think they both lose due to epic garbage writing and piss poor design. However, as Mungi points out, the GB are vastly more powerful on earth. Didn't we argue about whether they could beat Shuma in his own realm?Anyways, Soulfire DS had better feats. The Source is an aspect of the Presence. That's DS stalemating something alot bigger than Eternity. Not to mention the entire execrable storyline, from the small snippets I've seen, looks to be a failed attempt by Marvel to try and create their own Final Crisis.
Wassa Mungi. durwave
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So you are the one who has taken up my sword. Tell me of your skills and battles, guy who looks like Sokar. durfist
And you're one of the first people to recognize my avvy right away 😛
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThere's no evidence to support the Source was as powerful as Herc who CK was wrecking. Herc restored everything to the 616 reality whereas the Source had to secretly exterminate the new gods until the end.
Personally, I think they both lose due to epic garbage writing and piss poor design. However, as Mungi points out, the GB are vastly more powerful on earth. Didn't we argue about whether they could beat Shuma in his own realm?Anyways, Soulfire DS had better feats. The Source is an aspect of the Presence. That's DS stalemating something alot bigger than Eternity. Not to mention the entire execrable storyline, from the small snippets I've seen, looks to be a failed attempt by Marvel to try and create their own Final Crisis.
Wassa Mungi. durwave
The battle of vs. Herc was on a much grander scale as well than Ds vs. the Source.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestMost writers go back and forth from company to company, lol. Fc was terrible and so was chaos king so I guess they have that in common but completely different stories, endings, characters, etc.
CK loses due to ripping off Final Crisis. Marvel needs better writers. And really, there's nothing else to say. 😄
Originally posted by TricksterPriestTrick is back. +1 happiness.
CK loses due to ripping off Final Crisis. Marvel needs better writers. And really, there's nothing else to say. 😄
Originally posted by quanchi112Quan is back. -1 happiness.
Most writers go back and forth from company to company, lol. Fc was terrible and so was chaos king so I guess they have that in common but completely different stories, endings, characters, etc.
But seriously quan you thought FC sucked?