Mindless Hulk Vs Nova Prime

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I can deal with Hulk 6/10 if you argue the point, but how does he get 9/10? I mean, seriously, it's mind-boggling. Nova would have to let Hulk wail on him when he can just as easily stay airborne and blast him to his hearts content, not to mention being far faster from the get go.

Flying isn't always the key against a character that can jump at super speed. You all are forgetting who Mindless Hulk is... he busted through Onslaughts armor like it was candy. He is on another level. Hell... thor was struggling to even walk through the shocwave Hulk was crating from his punches.

Yo.

Originally posted by dmills
Robbie barely has a fraction of the power Rich has.

which didnt mean much when Rich faced Strontian, since he only beat her by exploting a weakness; beyond that she was getting the better of him iirc.

and wat he did there wont work *here*, so........

Originally posted by dmills
Haha, you're good.

1) Thing is, big difference between varying levels of nova force that an individual corpsman may have, versus a single guy being a living conduit for the entire Nova Force matrix that powers not only the hundreds or corpsman, but the very planet and all of its tech, including the WM itself, all at once.

2) I'm not seeing it. The supposed "strongest Hulk ever" made the eastern side of a continent shake. Nova let loose a blast that was felt light years away. Big difference in power imo.

1) aka, the "Ion/Parallax" -effect. I know this already comrade. 😉

2) big difference in their individual APPLICATIONS of power, really.

and let be honest here: while Rich typically doesnt access 100% of the NF, which kinda tells us that he's got some power to spare, the flipside of it is that he'll have major probs if/when he does almost as soon as it happens..........and he's gonna end up fighting a being who beats up on gods and gets stronger the longer a fight drags on.

Rich isnt winning this straight up, not w/o a *real* good plan. sorry.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by dmills
Not sure what you're referring to there big homie.

well, who else is worse than a mindless Hulk?? 😉

Tazer

I do think Nova could win the majority but I simply can't see him putting this Hulk down straight up.

Originally posted by zopzop
What is Vector of the U-foes considered? Because he came close, of course the Hulk healed almost immediately after.

Vector is extremely powerful but it matters not. That's PAD's Hulk after the healing factor retcon. Mindless Hulk was during the era that the Hulk was more of an "invulnerable" character and less of a healer. As a matter of fact, this exact same Hulk withstood Vector's blasts at the crossroads (Said attack was so powerful he was tossing an entire planet at Hulk IIRC) and the Hulk powered through without getting damaged nearly as badly.

Originally posted by dmills
Rage made a silly comment right there. He must've been sleepy.

Hulkamaniacs will say "that's the professor Hulk". Nevermind the other examples of the Hulk being burned up, cut up and busted up before.

😬 I know what I'm doing.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

which didnt mean much when Rich faced Strontian, since he only beat her by exploting a weakness; beyond that she was getting the better of him iirc.

and wat he did there wont work *here*, so........

1) aka, the "Ion/Parallax" -effect. I know this already comrade. 😉

2) big difference in their individual APPLICATIONS of power, really.

and let be honest here: while Rich typically doesnt access 100% of the NF, which kinda tells us that he's got some power to spare, the flipside of it is that he'll have major probs if/when he does almost as soon as it happens..........and he's gonna end up fighting a being who beats up on gods and gets stronger the longer a fight drags on.

Rich isnt winning this straight up, not w/o a *real* good plan. sorry.

Tazer

Nah, he was beating her down until he got distracted. Then he just soaked up damage while reading his strontian files, dismissed her at his leisure, then took care of a venom symbiote and went on to punk Blastaar. She was no real threat at all.

Tomato, tomatoe I suppose.

Now I really like you. Unlike some peeps you actually seem to have a grasp on the character. I respect that. You're wrong, but I can at least respect your position.

Yo.

Originally posted by dmills
Nah, he was beating her down until he got distracted. Then he just soaked up damage while reading his strontian files, dismissed her at his leisure, then took care of a venom symbiote and went on to punk Blastaar. She was no real threat at all.

Tomato, tomatoe I suppose.

Now I really like you. Unlike some peeps you actually seem to have a grasp on the character. I respect that. You're wrong, but I can at least respect your position.

we see him landing blows sure, but he was far from beating her down, and if she was no real threat then he wouldnt commented about how tuff she was, nor does it take as long as she was beating on him to pull up info from WM (given he didnt actually have to have a convo w/it), so to say that *whole time* he played Punchy McPunchbag is a misnomer.

plus, its a coinflip to say he'd have beaten her w/o the headbutt as well, and I wouldnt rank Richs h2h skills equal to hers either, so to say she "was no real threat at all" isnt justified in the slightest.

and again, none of wat Rich OR Robbie did there has any bearing on this fight, since the Hulk (and this version in particular) is on a whole other level.

Tazer

Hulk wins.

Look at my boy quan... he is back.

Now things are about to start getting interesting.

Nova will have to work for it, but he wins this. Hulk won't even be able to touch NP. The only thing I see disrupting Nova from pouring it on continuously would be the occasional thunder clap. Other than that, Hulk is gonna eat compressed grav pulses to the dome, barrage of gravimetric amped punches, buttload of long ranged blasts, and then when Richie gets bored, he bfr's him for a bit. Hulk starts to black out because from lack of air, then Nova gives him a 100 class haymaker sending him back to earth for the muthaeffin KO.

Have a question. Besides the drax fight, when was another time Nova actually used his speed in a fight?

I'm leaning toward Nova Prime 7/10.

Originally posted by carver9
Have a question. Besides the drax fight, when was another time Nova actually used his speed in a fight?

Against a trans-level char.
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=TI_4_Headshot_CPS_018.jpg

I'm betting Lord Mar-Vell is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than Mindless Boy. Agree?

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Against Lord Marvell recently only person Marvell had trouble with and it was due to Novas speed

Blitzes a bunch of Annihilus's Centurions. Looks like he flew them away before they even know wtf happened

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1299210712187.jpg

Blitzes some bugs causing them to shoot each other.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1299210948889.jpg

Moves so fast that Gladiator didn't know wtf happened.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/NovaV21-Page29.jpg

Ok... in all of those scans I seen NOTHING to suggest that Nova is untouchable. Going by the character history, Hulk IS tagging him and tagging him hard. One punch should cripple him. Like I told you before... Hulk shockwaves from his punches were sending metas flying and had even Thor struggling to walk through it. Nova isn't standing up to that. Then we have Hulk hitting people during mid blitz.

I can understand if this was Savage Hulk but damn... this is a stomp.

I told you Millz that man carver brings da pain

Originally posted by iceman24567
I told you Millz that man carver brings da pain

Stop being funny.

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Surfer gives Chase, Nova turns on the jets, circles back around and gives Norrin a facial.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1299212384300.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/NovaV414-Page9.jpg

He and his team clear room full of villains in a second.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1299213766983.jpg
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Originally posted by carver9
Stop being funny.

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Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

Robbie held that Strontian down using gravimetrics, but he couldnt do anything else AND he was getting weaker while she wasnt otherwise negatively affected; basically, it was a battle of attrition that we *could visably see* he was gonna lose.

not that the "stargating a mountain on top of Hulk" -trick would work anyways since its already happened & Hulk simply shouldered it.

w/o bfr, Nova loses.

Tazer

Robbie the rookie held down a Strontian. Richard, Nova Prime, the pro beat the Strontian with his versatility. That stargating a mountain on top of Hulk would work because Hulk shouldered and was stuck. Holding it up isn't the same as throwing off. Even if he could eventually get mad enough to through it off, he won't have time to do so when Nova simply increases the mountains mass but 5 fold and crush Hulk.

Nova can also stargate them both into empty space where Hulk is entirely useless, a sitting duck for Nova to bombard with gravitmetric beams.

Or if possible, Nova Prime could increase Hulk's endorphin and calm him down till he reverts to Banner - vulnerable for a K.O.

Originally posted by carver9
Flying isn't always the key against a character that can jump at super speed. You all are forgetting who Mindless Hulk is... he busted through Onslaughts armor like it was candy. He is on another level. Hell... thor was struggling to even walk through the shocwave Hulk was crating from his punches.

How about stargating both into deep empty space where Hulk has nothing to jump off against? Funny