Originally posted by carver9
Its not lowballing at all. What I am telling you is a nano second speed feat (which was never shown during combat) is overated. If character "a" say that character "b" is too fast for them, do we ignore this because character "a" has a nano second feat? OMG.If I make a Surfer vs Hulk fist fight match and put up the nano second feat, do you think people would vote for Surfer due to a speed blitz.
Can you show me Ironman, Quasar, or Thor using this nano second speed during combat?
All of this is common sense Bently.
Quasar reacted to an attack using shields with nanosecond reaction times, everywhere you look, that counts as a "battle speed feat", they are reactions; if you are capable of reacting to those speeds, we should assume you will do it in the forums by the rule "Characters fight to the best of their abilities".
That rule is very important, are you saying that Quasar cannot react in nanoseconds when he has done it before?
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
And how big were the moons? Moons can be the size of a TINY asteroid. Mars has 2 moons, and Mars is smaller than the Earth. Venus has no moons, and its far bigger than Mars. Pluto has a moon, and pluto is smaller than many moons of bigger planets.that said, we have a very solid feat from Superman, with the Maggedon feat. That was the size of 300+ earths.
Toying with Masterson? The last time I checked an inexperienced and underconfident Masterson was throwing Glad's unconscious body into a wormhole.
Superman was an engine to a machine. Nothing more, nothing less. That's like me saying that the humans that was on the left and right of Superman that was aiding in pulling the engine "with" Superman is stronger than Hulk. How much weight were Supes pulling? We really don't know unless we guess.
The planet was big... that's all we need to know and what else we need to know is that no one on the JLA has shown that they can destroy a planet unless we go by statements.
Gladiator bea the hell out of masterson and while masterson was on the ground defeated, with a laughing gladiator standing above him, he sneak attack him with a lightning bolt.
Originally posted by Bentley
Quasar reacted to an attack using shields with nanosecond reaction times, everywhere you look, that counts as a "battle speed feat", they are reactions; if you are capable of reacting to those speeds, we should assume you will do it in the forums by the rule "Characters fight to the best of their abilities".That rule is very important, are you saying that Quasar cannot react in nanoseconds when he has done it before?
What I am telling you is that its overated. Thats what I am saying. After this nano second feat Quasar WILL get blitzed. Its just how it is and even though he has this nano second feat, there are people out ther that is just much faster than him.
Martian Manhunter doesn't have a nano second speed feat under his belt but I would go as far as to say he is faster than quasar. I don't think Wonder Woman has a statement like that either along with Black Adam and Captain Marvel BUT imo, they are faster than him.
Originally posted by carver9
What I am telling you is that its overated. Thats what I am saying. After this nano second feat Quasar WILL get blitzed. Its just how it is and even though he has this nano second feat, there are people out ther that is just much faster than him.Martian Manhunter doesn't have a nano second speed feat under his belt but I would go as far as to say he is faster than quasar. I don't think Wonder Woman has a statement like that either along with Black Adam and Captain Marvel BUT imo, they are faster than him.
It's not overrated, it's the rules. I haven't said Quasar will be faster than team 2, I just said he can hang.
Originally posted by Bentley
It's not overrated, it's the rules. I haven't said Quasar will be faster than team 2, I just said he can hang.
Besides the one nano second feat, what other speed feats does quasar have because I could easily just say that Gladiator would blitz the JLA at 100 times the speed of light if we are going by "one time showings".
Originally posted by carver9
Besides the one nano second feat, what other speed feats does quasar have because I could easily just say that Gladiator would blitz the JLA at 100 times the speed of light if we are going by "one time showings".
You could say that, it would be an argument that could actually be defended unlike the many against-the-rules-lowballs that you throw most of the time.
You know that you'd run into the fact that it isn't a fighting speed feat while Quasar is, so...
Originally posted by Bentley
You could say that, it would be an argument that could actually be defended unlike the many against-the-rules-lowballs that you throw most of the time.You know that you'd run into the fact that it isn't a fighting speed feat while Quasar is, so...
But its a bull rush feat that no one on the opposing team would be able to react to. By the way, the rules has changed. A feat has to happen at least 3 times for it to be used in a forum debate. A character doing something once isn't a usuable feat unless you think Wolverine can move 1200 mps since he did keep pace with a running speed demon.
Originally posted by carver9
But its a bull rush feat that no one on the opposing team would be able to react to. By the way, the rules has changed. A feat has to happen at least 3 times for it to be used in a forum debate. A character doing something once isn't a usuable feat unless you think Wolverine can move 1200 mps since he did keep pace with a running speed demon.
That rule is for abilities that aren't included in the respective powerset of the characters, not their high end feats. But if you're right, well, I'm sure Bada will come in any minute to say you're right.
Originally posted by Bentley
That rule is for abilities that aren't included in the respective powerset of the characters, not their high end feats. But if you're right, well, I'm sure Bada will come in any minute to say you're right.
Naah, Bada can't stand me so I'm pretty sure he will disagree.
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I'm just going by what was discussed with Darth and Pr.
I agree because its true and a couple of weeks ago I was explaining the same rule to Lordofmurder regarding Galactus and the Un I believe the rule was created because of the Thanos force block thing.
Originally posted by carver9Really carver you should have just taken the mans word on the subject your memory is horrible
Of course you would agree with Bently.
Originally posted by iceman24567
I agree because its true and a couple of weeks ago I was explaining the same rule to Lordofmurder regarding Galactus and the Un I believe the rule was created because of the Thanos force block thing. Really carver you should have just taken the mans word on the subject your memory is horrible
I'm still not taking Bently word for that topic.
Originally posted by carver9
Possibly but I can also put some scans up of Thor with his nanosecond feats but still getting blitzed by mongoose (and admitted that mongoose was hard to hit) along with Wolverine blitzing him, etc, etc...The list goes on...
Everyone has it, hell, Ironman has it but continuously get blitzed by Spiderman and admitted that Wolverine speed was unmatched.
The ONLY time anything regarding nano seconds should be impressive IMO is when it is used during a combat situation.
Surfer also has nano second speed feat but off of his board, I wouldn't go around saying that he'll blitz Hulk and Doomsday.
I like it how you use instances of jobbing and PIS to prove a point.
You actually think that Thor, someone who has fought everyone from heralds to skyfathers being blitzed by MONGOOSE is actually a valid example? 😬
Also, stop using wolverine to prove a character's inferiority. He's just as bad as batman at making superior opponents job.