Originally posted by -Pr-
you're just afraid Bentley will embarass you again.
Lol.. you just helped me embarrass Bently. I have taken 3 pictures of this event. I rarely if EVER ge you to agree with me and I know it will not happen again.
I'm going to bookmark this page.
Pr agreeing with me... can't believe it.
💃
Originally posted by carver9
Lol.. you just helped me embarrass Bently. I have taken 3 pictures of this event. I rarely if EVER ge you to agree with me and I know it will not happen again.I'm going to bookmark this page.
Pr agreeing with me... can't believe it.
💃
Actually, you agreed with me, by referencing an old post of mine.
And you still could be wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
Help a brother out.Show me.
Go check his respect thread. But off the top of my head there was the fight between weakened Superman and Zod where a planet was destroyed as a by product of their fight...i.e., he wasn't even TRYING to break the planet, and then there were 2 recent examples of rather large moons that superman destroyed. (uninhabited of course).
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Go check his respect thread. But off the top of my head there was the fight between weakened Superman and Zod where a planet was destroyed as a by product of their fight...i.e., he wasn't even TRYING to break the planet, and then there were 2 recent examples of rather large moons that superman destroyed. (uninhabited of course).
that zod one won't count, but he's still stronger than gladiator by a considerable margin. the feats support this.
Originally posted by Badabing
Pr likes to toy with his prey before he goes in for the kill. biscuits
mmm
Originally posted by -Pr-
that zod one won't count, but he's still stronger than gladiator by a considerable margin. the feats support this.mmm
Lol... PR.
You just took away from me owning him.
I still need to post some Glad feats for you. I have plans on doing a posting feats against Nihilist since he keeps challenging me. Its going to be on Supes and Gladiator.
This will change a lot on KMC depending on the winner.
I have been gathering scans.
lol @ owning me. How does it not count when Superman isn't even trying to destroy the planet? and they were under a RED SUN, and hitting EACH OTHER. They weren't even hitting the planet.
Your best evidence for Gladiator being stronger than Superman is him destroying a planet of unknown size and your claiming its big because it has "8 moons" even though we don't even know they are moons, and even if they are, Pluto has 1 moon and Pluto is even smaller than our moon. Mars (2 moons) is smaller than Venus (no moons). And based on the appearance of those moons in the Gladiator example, they barely look bigger than Gladiator himself.
Oh, did you also know there is a TINY ASTEROID in our asteroid belt with a "moon" rotating around it?
Basically, your argument for its size is: "Its big, trust me".
But considering that Gladiator is a space faring guy, who's usually portrayed as an enemy, its funny that his best planet-busting feat is destroying a planet of unknown size.
Whereas Superman, being mainly based on Earth, and a GOOD GUY, has much better planet busting/moon busting, planet moving feats.
But even if you want to ignore the Superman/Zod example, please, by all means show me a scan of Gladiator shattering reality with the SHOCKWAVE OF HIS PUNCHES.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... PR.You just took away from me owning him.
I still need to post some Glad feats for you. I have plans on doing a posting feats against Nihilist since he keeps challenging me. Its going to be on Supes and Gladiator.
This will change a lot on KMC depending on the winner.
I have been gathering scans.
Except that you forget one glaring, massive point: I've read most of Gladiator's stuff too.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
lol @ owning me. How does it not count when Superman isn't even trying to destroy the planet? and they were under a RED SUN, and hitting EACH OTHER. They weren't even hitting the planet.Your best evidence for Gladiator being stronger than Superman is him destroying a planet of unknown size and your claiming its big because it has "8 moons" even though we don't even know they are moons, and even if they are, Pluto has 1 moon and Pluto is even smaller than our moon. Mars (2 moons) is smaller than Venus (no moons). And based on the appearance of those moons in the Gladiator example, they barely look bigger than Gladiator himself.
Oh, did you also know there is a TINY ASTEROID in our asteroid belt with a "moon" rotating around it?
Basically, your argument for its size is: "Its big, trust me".
But considering that Gladiator is a space faring guy, who's usually portrayed as an enemy, its funny that his best planet-busting feat is destroying a planet of unknown size.
Whereas Superman, being mainly based on Earth, and a GOOD GUY, has much better planet busting/moon busting, planet moving feats.
But even if you want to ignore the Superman/Zod example, please, by all means show me a scan of Gladiator shattering reality with the SHOCKWAVE OF HIS PUNCHES.
the zod/zuperman one won't count because the planet itself had a special connection to both men.
there are better feats anyway.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
lol @ owning me. How does it not count when Superman isn't even trying to destroy the planet? and they were under a RED SUN, and hitting EACH OTHER. They weren't even hitting the planet.Your best evidence for Gladiator being stronger than Superman is him destroying a planet of unknown size and your claiming its big because it has "8 moons" even though we don't even know they are moons, and even if they are, Pluto has 1 moon and Pluto is even smaller than our moon. Mars (2 moons) is smaller than Venus (no moons). And based on the appearance of those moons in the Gladiator example, they barely look bigger than Gladiator himself.
Oh, did you also know there is a TINY ASTEROID in our asteroid belt with a "moon" rotating around it?
Basically, your argument for its size is: "Its big, trust me".
But considering that Gladiator is a space faring guy, who's usually portrayed as an enemy, its funny that his best planet-busting feat is destroying a planet of unknown size.
Whereas Superman, being mainly based on Earth, and a GOOD GUY, has much better planet busting/moon busting, planet moving feats.
But even if you want to ignore the Superman/Zod example, please, by all means show me a scan of Gladiator shattering reality with the SHOCKWAVE OF HIS PUNCHES.
Somebody help him... OMG.
Superman and zod was connected to the planet.
I'll try to be as fair as possible to both characters here. Here's a comparison of Gladiator vs Superman:
Gladiator isn’t phased by Human Torches full nova blast.
http://img527.imageshack.us/i/novaej3.jpg/
OK, First off, Johny Storm “NOVA BLAST” is not actually a Nova, this has been stated several times.
If I remember correctly it was stated to be at 12,000 Fahrenheit or 18,000 Fahrenheit. At most it is A SOLAR FLARE.
Now Superman on the other hand:
He survives the Electromagnetic discharge of 50 Supernovas, 1 electric discharge of 1 supernova is enough to collapse a star. He endure the equivalent of 50 After getting bombarded with red sun light:
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Superman%20vs%20Red%20Sun/Blastredsunradiation2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Superman%20vs%20Red%20Sun/Blastredsunradiation3.jpg
Survives and CONTAINS energy that could destroy half the Solar System. (also Gladiator travels at 100 times the speed of light).
http://img267.imageshack.us/i/wtfshipmh5.jpg/
http://img370.imageshack.us/i/wtfship2tj8.jpg/
It states on the panel that He survives a Supernova, see the previous scan for the Superman comparison, AND see next scan for Superman containing enough energy to VAPORIZE HALF A GALAXY
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supesgeddon6ho.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supesgeddon25nr.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supesgeddon48fq.jpg
Torch could not see Gladiator when he hit him
http://img385.imageshack.us/i/gladfastqv9.jpg/
ZOD AND URSA did not even see that one coming
Going too fast to be hit
http://img160.imageshack.us/i/spprb1.jpg/
Phasing
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/supermanfast3ar.jpg
Constructing a city
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/cityta4.jpg
Going to France
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/supespeed6kt-1.jpg
Outracing LIGHT not lighting
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/90degrees.jpg
From Vega to Earth in panels
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/84216747rs4.jpg
Enough with the speed
Moving an asteroid
http://img117.imageshack.us/i/astroidzt0.gif/
Wrestling earth from Starbreaker
Earth is out of it’s orbital trench, they are pulling against Starbreaker’s power and the Sun’s gravity
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanetfm9.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanet1ns7.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanet2qb7.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanet4em6.jpg
Not enough? because is a shared feat?
Powering the endless millwheels of Maggedon which is about 300x the size of the Earth:
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/maggedon-2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/FACTS/2-1.jpg
Lifting a mini singularity the size of a baseball
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/Supermanvsblackhole.jpg
Fast balling the mini singularity
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/Untitled-7.gif
Gladiator breaks Wolverine’s adamantium claws
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/clawwt3.jpg/
There is no adamantium in DC universe, so the best I can do is point out Superman NEARLY breaking DIANA’S bracelets (She actually stated this) and also bending Diana’s bracelets to the point of breaking her hand.
He also broke Doomsday’s protrusions that have withstand time and space shattering forces.
Destroys a planet with few punches
http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/ http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/
Shatters time and space with the SHOCKWAVE of his punches
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/STRENGTH/SMAN.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/retconpunch-1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/retconpunch2-1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/realityshateringpunches.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/realityshateringpunches2.jpg
Destroying planetoids casually
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/STRENGTH/destroyingplanetiodswithease.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/STRENGTH/destroyingplanetionswithease2goldeg.jpg
Gladiator can collapse stars with his hand
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/gladjx4.jpg/
I did not see it, but its just somebody stating something in panel, in that case Conner Kent has stated that Superman can destroy earth with a sneeze.
Reed’s file list Gladiator strengths as almost limitless
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/glad2jf0.jpg/
The Quintessence is concerned by Superman’s power
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/FACTS/QUINTESSENCEFEARSSUPERMAN2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/FACTS/QUINTESSENCEFEARSSUPERMAN3.jpg
Gladiator breaks Quasar’s constructs by flexing his muscles.
http://img266.imageshack.us/i/qbbondswp1.jpg/
Superman chooling Guy Gardner
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/vs%20GL/1738bv.jpg
Breaking GL JOHN STEWART constructs
VS a team with a GL on it
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/VS%20TEAM/racerxsb33p14dd3.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/VS%20TEAM/racerxsb33p16og7.jpg
Heat vision hotter than a star (also shows combat speed reflexes)
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/heatanc5.jpg/
This is actually hotter than a star
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanheatvisonhe5.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supes1ek6.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supes2po7.jpg
Combat Speed and reflexes
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/speedpunches.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/351yc.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/pics0017bn.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/67745847.jpg
VS BLACK BLOT
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/28202037ko5.jpg/
VS Hyperion
http://img248.imageshack.us/i/93607610ou5.jpg/
Beats Nova after a long fight:
http://img354.imageshack.us/f/10bhs4.jpg/
VS THE Crime Syndicate
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/69633935ug2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/33528614vl1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/40603807sb1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/86621276bw7.jpg
vs mayor force
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/CAPTAIN%20ATOM/darkquantumenergy4.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/CAPTAIN%20ATOM/darkquantumenergy5.jpg
vs aegis enthropy
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/1021by.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/1031iz.jpg
OK that’s it.
Do you still think Gladiator is more powerful than Superman?
I only saw one department in which Glad looked better, which was flexing his muscles to break Quasar’s construct, but a lot of people will agree that High level GL’s like John or Gardner are > Quasar
So I posted my evidence, now where's yours?