Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I'll try to be as fair as possible to both characters here. Here's a comparison of Gladiator vs Superman:Gladiator isn’t phased by Human Torches full nova blast.
http://img527.imageshack.us/i/novaej3.jpg/
OK, First off, Johny Storm “NOVA BLAST” is not actually a Nova, this has been stated several times.
If I remember correctly it was stated to be at 12,000 Fahrenheit or 18,000 Fahrenheit. At most it is A SOLAR FLARE.
Now Superman on the other hand:
He survives the Electromagnetic discharge of 50 Supernovas, 1 electric discharge of 1 supernova is enough to collapse a star. He endure the equivalent of 50 After getting bombarded with red sun light:
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Superman%20vs%20Red%20Sun/Blastredsunradiation2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Superman%20vs%20Red%20Sun/Blastredsunradiation3.jpgSurvives and CONTAINS energy that could destroy half the Solar System. (also Gladiator travels at 100 times the speed of light).
http://img267.imageshack.us/i/wtfshipmh5.jpg/
http://img370.imageshack.us/i/wtfship2tj8.jpg/It states on the panel that He survives a Supernova, see the previous scan for the Superman comparison, AND see next scan for Superman containing enough energy to VAPORIZE HALF A GALAXY
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supesgeddon6ho.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supesgeddon25nr.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supesgeddon48fq.jpgTorch could not see Gladiator when he hit him
http://img385.imageshack.us/i/gladfastqv9.jpg/
ZOD AND URSA did not even see that one coming
Going too fast to be hit
http://img160.imageshack.us/i/spprb1.jpg/
Phasing
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/supermanfast3ar.jpgConstructing a city
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/cityta4.jpg
Going to France
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/supespeed6kt-1.jpg
Outracing LIGHT not lighting
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/90degrees.jpg
From Vega to Earth in panels
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/84216747rs4.jpg
Enough with the speed
Moving an asteroid
http://img117.imageshack.us/i/astroidzt0.gif/
Wrestling earth from Starbreaker
Earth is out of it’s orbital trench, they are pulling against Starbreaker’s power and the Sun’s gravity
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanetfm9.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanet1ns7.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanet2qb7.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanmovesplanet4em6.jpgNot enough? because is a shared feat?
Powering the endless millwheels of Maggedon which is about 300x the size of the Earth:
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/maggedon-2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/FACTS/2-1.jpgLifting a mini singularity the size of a baseball
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/Supermanvsblackhole.jpg
Fast balling the mini singularity
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/Untitled-7.gif
Gladiator breaks Wolverine’s adamantium claws
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/clawwt3.jpg/
There is no adamantium in DC universe, so the best I can do is point out Superman NEARLY breaking DIANA’S bracelets (She actually stated this) and also bending Diana’s bracelets to the point of breaking her hand.
He also broke Doomsday’s protrusions that have withstand time and space shattering forces.
Destroys a planet with few punches
http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/ http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/
Shatters time and space with the SHOCKWAVE of his punches
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/STRENGTH/SMAN.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/retconpunch-1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/retconpunch2-1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/realityshateringpunches.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/realityshateringpunches2.jpgDestroying planetoids casually
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/STRENGTH/destroyingplanetiodswithease.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/STRENGTH/destroyingplanetionswithease2goldeg.jpgGladiator can collapse stars with his hand
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/gladjx4.jpg/
I did not see it, but its just somebody stating something in panel, in that case Conner Kent has stated that Superman can destroy earth with a sneeze.
Reed’s file list Gladiator strengths as almost limitless
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/glad2jf0.jpg/
The Quintessence is concerned by Superman’s power
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/FACTS/QUINTESSENCEFEARSSUPERMAN2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/FACTS/QUINTESSENCEFEARSSUPERMAN3.jpgGladiator breaks Quasar’s constructs by flexing his muscles.
http://img266.imageshack.us/i/qbbondswp1.jpg/
Superman chooling Guy Gardner
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/vs%20GL/1738bv.jpg
Breaking GL JOHN STEWART constructs
VS a team with a GL on it
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/VS%20TEAM/racerxsb33p14dd3.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/VS%20TEAM/racerxsb33p16og7.jpg
Heat vision hotter than a star (also shows combat speed reflexes)
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/heatanc5.jpg/This is actually hotter than a star
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supermanheatvisonhe5.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supes1ek6.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/supes2po7.jpg
Combat Speed and reflexes
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/speedpunches.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/351yc.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/pics0017bn.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/67745847.jpgVS BLACK BLOT
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/28202037ko5.jpg/
VS Hyperion
http://img248.imageshack.us/i/93607610ou5.jpg/
Beats Nova after a long fight:
http://img354.imageshack.us/f/10bhs4.jpg/
VS THE Crime Syndicate
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/69633935ug2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/33528614vl1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/40603807sb1.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/speed/86621276bw7.jpgvs mayor force
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/CAPTAIN%20ATOM/darkquantumenergy4.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/CAPTAIN%20ATOM/darkquantumenergy5.jpgvs aegis enthropy
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/1021by.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/VS%20SUPERHEROES/1031iz.jpgOK that’s it.
Do you still think Gladiator is more powerful than Superman?
I only saw one department in which Glad looked better, which was flexing his muscles to break Quasar’s construct, but a lot of people will agree that High level GL’s like John or Gardner are > Quasar
So I posted my evidence, now where's yours?
Lolololol...
Its pointless to post anything regarding what you just posted. All of your scans (90% of them...) comes with a plot.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
don't ALL scans "comes with a plot"?
Depends... I'm referring to your scans having nothing to do with what you are saying and you can't compare the two (gladiator feats and your scans).
Example... you stated that Superman tanked a blast that had enough power t shed a galaxy... in your scan it states that the only thing that hit him was the shock waves and the blast came at him at light speed and he out paced it.
The rest of your scans also comes with the same plot... nothing what you are implying.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Carver...The guy showed a vast amount of scans for both Glads and Supes, scans which demonstrate their ability/power. What more do you want?
And I am proud of him for doing that... I was actually impressed when he did that.
I'm not saying that he did a bad job, he actually did very good but I can go through each of them and give reasons on why they are not comparable to each other.
He did good sorting them out and in a hour in a half from now... I am going to debate and post scans proving my case (he is challenging me).
But good job pillar.
Originally posted by carver9
So I was right this entire time.This is what I was aying. I know you all hate when I am right but this is something that no one can prevent.
😉
Except, as I said, it's feasible for Quasar to use super speed given that he's a cosmic high herald awesome character who has gone faster than light his entire career. 😉
Originally posted by carver9
Space flight?
Yep, but superspeed is the same power than superspeed, Quasar wasn't inventing a new one when he used reaction speed, we only consider it something different because travel speed tends to be related with the plot most of the time; in Quasar's case is more than just random plot, since he's a space faring character.
methinks this should have been taken to the supes/glads thread. pillar you should post that stuff in that thread. it was well done. won't convince anyone who already has their mind made up, but someone who genuinely isn't sure might be able to look at it rationally and see that what is pretty obvious to most.
jla still stomp in this thread.
