Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds cannot empower them to Tyrant's level or anywhere near it.
📖 He turned a baby into Validus. He turned a regular human into Stayne a being that could match a top tier buster like Takion, in fact she was exactly like Takion.
He has also amped his allies like Mantis and Kalibak allowing them to surpass other top tiers.
Originally posted by AllanklesGDs isn't canon for regular Seid. He's had moments like maybe Stayne but he's went down on panel to less and takion really is only an elite top tier imo.
📖 He turned a baby into Validus. He turned a regular human into Stayne a being that could match a top tier buster like Takion, in fact she was exactly like Takion.He has also amped his allies like Mantis and Kalibak allowing them to surpass other top tiers.
Why didn't Seid amp anyone in the great lantern war or against Doomsday the brick ?
Originally posted by quanchi112The same reason Superman doesn't sun dip every story, or Flash doesn't IMP everyone in the first few seconds of the story, or Wonder Woman doesn't lasso all of her enemies. Where would the story be if he did that? Also Elite Top Tiers cannot defeat two other Elite Top Tiers and a Mid-High Herald. Also Takion, provided the body of power to completely reconstruct the celestial city. A top tier cannot do that.
GDs isn't canon for regular Seid. He's had moments like maybe Stayne but he's went down on panel to less and takion really is only an elite top tier imo.Why didn't Seid amp anyone in the great lantern war or against Doomsday the brick ?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So you post scans after stating th€ context of the fight that ignore the context of the fight?In a strait up fight, gaactus would stomp him.
Here tyrant doesn't have the ability to absorb Darkseids beams or use galactus tech against him.
Tyrant still wins but to say he stomps is ludicrous.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Exactly ignoring context to make Tyrant look like an abstract level being so much fail
I don't get how their fight was not straight up. Tyrant used his own abilties to hurt Galactus who in turn got desperate and tried to utilize his tech, which again, did not work too well for him. It's not like Tyrant only won because of using Galactus' tech against him.
Now if by 'context', you two were referring to Tyrant absorbing Galactus' blasts, then Galactus could've easily done the same thing to Tyrant seeing as they both have the same bio-spheric energy. That's as straight up as it can possibly get, bros. Depowered Tyrant > Galactus according to that fight.
Originally posted by TheTyrantWhat you are implying is ridiculous. Galactus depowered Tyrant at the height of his power and yet you want us to believe Tyrant is more powerful than big G in his lower form? You actually think Ganymede or Thanos would have a prayer against a being more powerful than Galactus? Galactus would make stains of Thanos easily. Tyrant did not. Tyrant prepped for his encounter with Big G.
I don't get how their fight was not straight up. Tyrant used his own abilities to hurt Galactus who in turn got desperate and tried to utilize his tech, which again did not work too well for him.If by 'context', you two were referring to Tyrant absorbing Galactus' blasts, then Galactus could've easily done the same thing to Tyrant seeing that they both have the same bio-spheric energy. That's as straight up as it can possibly get, bros. Depowered Tyrant > Galactus according to that fight.
I love people who try and hold on DS and his TRUE form or that DS performed multiversal feats in FC when he did NO such thing. Thanos doesn't have many low showings... DS on the other hand does... you average them all out... DS is lucky to be high end Trans.
As for this thread... Tyrant with ease. The team is pretty much one shot and DS take a little bit, but is put down with little difficulty. As usual Allan and Nvr are missing context in which DS amps people.. it's NOT on the fly spur of the moment as this fight would be. When Tyrant is kicking his teeth in, he's not going to have time to prep to amp people, won't have his tech around to assist in said amping. He will be getting his sh1t pushed in
Originally posted by TheTyrantSo Tyrant has the tools to beat Galactus those same tools wouldnt work on other skyfathers he wont be absorbing Darkseids Ob he wouldnt absorb Odins energy blasts and get empowered by them. Galactus blasted Tyrant and made him stronger due to their relationship Tyrant was able to get the upper hand Tyrant is not abstract level because he had the right tools to make Galactus look like the jobber he is so yeah ignore the context and act like his fight with Galactus is a benchmark for his power level 👇
I don't get how their fight was not straight up. Tyrant used his [b]own abilties to hurt Galactus who in turn got desperate and tried to utilize his tech, which again, did not work too well for him. It's not like Tyrant only won because of using Galactus' tech against him.Now if by 'context', you two were referring to Tyrant absorbing Galactus' blasts, then Galactus could've easily done the same thing to Tyrant seeing as they both have the same bio-spheric energy. That's as straight up as it can possibly get, bros. Depowered Tyrant > Galactus according to that fight. [/B]
Originally posted by Comics Queen
What you are implying is ridiculous. Galactus depowered Tyrant at the height of his power and yet you want us to believe Tyrant is more powerful than big G in his lower form? You actually think Ganymede or Thanos would have a prayer against a being more powerful than Galactus? Galactus would make stains of Thanos easily. Tyrant did not. Tyrant prepped for his encounter with Big G.
You have NO clue what you're talking about. The writer and artist made this crystal clear, but clearly not enough for you.
Galactus usually ALWAYS talks down to his foes and doesn't even think of them as threats. He's down so with Ego, Mephisto, In-betweener etc etc. Yet with Tyrant, HE BACKED down the first time they met and LET tryant take HIS herald. Why you ask.. Galactus own words tell us... He didn't want to WRECK Galaxies in the COLLATERAL damage of their fight. Seems like Galactus viewed Tyrant as legitimate threat to him.. depowered or not.
For proof of that.. sure... Then Galactus specifically finds a planet ripe with nutrients to feed on BEFORE the battle. Not only does Galactus usually talk down to his foes... he rarely ever feeds before battle. He did so against Tyrant. Why.. because he knew he was facing a tough hombre.
More proof.... On the way to the battle between Tyrant and Galactus.. Surfer is speeding towards the battle and goes.. I need to get there before they DESTROY EACHOTHER. Surfer knows full well how powerful Galactus is and Tyrant is. He feared them killing eachother in battle. Yet more proof of what level Tyrant was on. The writer couldn't have been more clear.
Then we see Tyrant tooling high end heralds like they were nothing more than flies to him. Somethings DS rarely ever does. Then he beats Thanos who some consider Mid/low Skyfather.. Mind you a PREPPED and AMPED Thanos, and made him leave for fear of dying. Now, take a look at the Thanos vs Odin fight.. Thanos wasn't prepped or amped when he faced Tyrant. In a much longer battle Thanos NEVER ONCE thought about leaving or had any fear of dying. He wanted to continue fighting. Against tyrant, in a much shorter period of time, he left for fear of dying (Thanos rarely does this).
What does all this point to... Tyrant being really powerful and a threat to Galactus.. whether in his depowered state or not. Against DS.. he walks all over DS and this team.
Originally posted by Comics QueenThe reason is simple you still don't have enough feats or what not to put Stayne on or near Superman or Doomsday level. Both of which have soundly defeated Darkseid.
The same reason Superman doesn't sun dip every story, or Flash doesn't IMP everyone in the first few seconds of the story, or Wonder Woman doesn't lasso all of her enemies. Where would the story be if he did that? Also Elite Top Tiers cannot defeat two other Elite Top Tiers and a Mid-High Herald. Also Takion, provided the body of power to completely reconstruct the celestial city. A top tier cannot do that.
Yes, elite top tiers can do so. Look at Thor's run in blood and thunder for instance.
There are greater power feats than this this is just another impressive feat but which does not put him in another class despite your intentions to do so.
Originally posted by iceman24567
So Tyrant has the tools to beat Galactus those same tools wouldnt work on other skyfathers he wont be absorbing Darkseids Ob he wouldnt absorb Odins energy blasts and get empowered by them. Galactus blasted Tyrant and made him stronger due to their relationship Tyrant was able to get the upper hand Tyrant is not abstract level because he had the right tools to make Galactus look like the jobber he is so yeah ignore the context and act like his fight with Galactus is a benchmark for his power level 👇
False. Read my post above. Tyrant absorbing Galactus blast was NOTHING Galactus couldn't do himself. They BOTH feed of the same bio energy. It was just that Tyrant DIDN'T blast Galactus. However, something that both parties can do, all of sudden isn't an advantage to one party and made the difference. Doesn't work that way. They both have that ability. To say nothing of my entire post above PROVES Tyrant was a threat to Galactus and it came straight from the horse's mouth.. absorbing or no absorbing.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou aren't convincing anyone. Tyrant clearly didn't steam roll Thanos, Something Galactus can do with ease.
False. Read my post above. Tyrant absorbing Galactus blast was NOTHING Galactus couldn't do himself. They BOTH feed of the same bio energy. It was just that Tyrant DIDN'T blast Galactus. However, something that both parties can do, all of sudden isn't an advantage to one party and made the difference. Doesn't work that way. They both have that ability. To say nothing of my entire post above PROVES Tyrant was a threat to Galactus and it came straight from the horse's mouth.. absorbing or no absorbing.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiBoth have the power to absorb Be but Tyrant actually absorbed it from Galactus and by Tyrants own words it EMPOWERED him that did give Tyrant an advantage one he wouldnt have if it were Zeus blasting his ass with lightning or Odin blasting him with high end skyfather level energy blasts. Point is Tyrant has the tools to fight Galactus but those same tools would be useless against somebody not named Galactus deny it all you want most people see his encounter with Galactus for what it really was and I can live with that 🙂
False. Read my post above. Tyrant absorbing Galactus blast was NOTHING Galactus couldn't do himself. They BOTH feed of the same bio energy. It was just that Tyrant DIDN'T blast Galactus. However, something that both parties can do, all of sudden isn't an advantage to one party and made the difference. Doesn't work that way. They both have that ability. To say nothing of my entire post above PROVES Tyrant was a threat to Galactus and it came straight from the horse's mouth.. absorbing or no absorbing.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
You aren't convincing anyone. Tyrant clearly didn't steam roll Thanos, Something Galactus can do with ease.
Counter my post above this one. All of it proved what level Tyrant was on and that Galactus feared Tyrant. Can't denying the clear presentation of multiple comics. Tyrant was a threat to Galactus and Galactus and others knew it.
By the way.. Thanos has almost mind raped Galactus and has also blasted him across a moon with ease. Just breaching Thanos's shields caused Galactus to deplete vital energies and needed to feed again. I'd say Thanos has also done decent against Galactus.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Both have the power to absorb Be but Tyrant actually absorbed it from Galactus and by Tyrants own words it EMPOWERED him that did give Tyrant an advantage one he wouldnt have if it were Zeus blasting his ass with lightning or Odin blasting him with high end skyfather level energy blasts. Point is Tyrant has the tools to fight Galactus but those same tools would be useless against somebody not named Galactus deny it all you want most people see his encounter with Galactus for what it really was and I can live with that 🙂
Counter my long post then. All of those FACTS prove it WASN'T the absorbing of this or that which made the difference. Galactus was WELL AWARE of his powers. My whole post proves Tyrant was indeed a threat to Galactus and not one time, did they say he was a threat because he could absorb his blasts. Not once. He was a threat because he was that damn powerful.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThanos mind raped Galactus who was unsuspecting. He also was prepared with shields that were not his standard.
Counter my post above this one. All of it proved what level Tyrant was on and that Galactus feared Tyrant. Can't denying the clear presentation of multiple comics. Tyrant was a threat to Galactus and Galactus and others knew it.By the way.. Thanos has almost mind raped Galactus and has also blasted him across a moon with ease. Just breaching Thanos's shields caused Galactus to deplete vital energies and needed to feed again. I'd say Thanos has also done decent against Galactus.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI stated facts as I have always done in vs threads with Tyrant I stated how Tyrant empowered by a blast that not only made him cry out in pain but knock him threw the hull of Galactus' ship. Are you really saying if Galactus' blast didnt empower him and instead it had that same effect on him that his attack on Thanos had the fight wouldnt have been different? Lol the bias you want Tyrant to look superior to skyafthers thats great but dont force your opinion on others without actual proof
Counter my long post then. All of those FACTS prove it WASN'T the absorbing of this or that which made the difference. Galactus was WELL AWARE of his powers. My whole post proves Tyrant was indeed a threat to Galactus and not one time, did they say he was a threat because he could absorb his blasts. Not once. He was a threat because he was that damn powerful.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
What you are implying is ridiculous. Galactus depowered Tyrant at the height of his power and yet you want us to believe Tyrant is more powerful than big G in his lower form? You actually think Ganymede or Thanos would have a prayer against a being more powerful than Galactus? Galactus would make stains of Thanos easily. Tyrant did not. Tyrant prepped for his encounter with Big G.
It was Galactus who prepped against Tyrant, buddy. He went out of his way to eat a planet, just for his upcoming and inevitable confrontation with Tyrant. Hell, he even let Tyrant keep his herald; that's how scared he was.
Originally posted by iceman24567
So Tyrant has the tools to beat Galactus those same tools wouldnt work on other skyfathers he wont be absorbing Darkseids Ob he wouldnt absorb Odins energy blasts and get empowered by them. Galactus blasted Tyrant and made him stronger due to their relationship Tyrant was able to get the upper hand Tyrant is not abstract level because he had the right tools to make Galactus look like the jobber he is so yeah ignore the context and act like his fight with Galactus is a benchmark for his power level 👇
You seem to be under the impression that Darkseid's Omega Effect would do anything to Tyrant for some reason. May I ask why?
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Thanos mind raped Galactus who was unsuspecting. He also was prepared with shields that were not his standard.
Thanos didn't 'mind-rape' Galactus on his own. Moondragon was there for a reason.