Jafar vs Voldemort

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If he is turned into an insentient object he will not be able to turn himself back

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Lol. So if Voldemort turns into a head of lettuce, he can undo the transformation by what? Speaking the proper words? With what orifice?

Non-verbal spells.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Non-verbal spells.

What precedent is there for a wizard being turned into an inanimate object against their will by a superior wizard and then turning themselves back with non-verbal spells? Also, what does non-verbal in this case mean? He'll will it with the residual soul that rests within the lettuce? Or he'll furl a leaf in an attempt to gesture?

/redherring

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
What precedent is there for a wizard being turned into an inanimate object against their will by a superior wizard and then turning themselves back with non-verbal spells? Also, what does non-verbal in this case mean? He'll will it with the residual soul that rests within the lettuce? Or he'll furl a leaf in an attempt to gesture?

/redherring

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Harry tried to use non-verbal spells when he was petrified by Draco in the train, in Half-Blood Prince. He failed, only because of his inexperience at performing such types of spells and lack of strength to perform wandless magic at a moment's notice. Voldemort has neither of these constraints.

A non-verbal spell is him essentially speaking a spell aloud in his mind.

So, what proof do you have that Tommy boy can reverse Jafar turning him into an inanimate object?

Silly. He doesn't need proof. He just needs to believe in the magic.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Voldemort has neither of these constraints.

A non-verbal spell is him essentially speaking a spell aloud in his mind.

As far as I remember no Harry Potter magician has ever performed such a complex transmutation spell without a wand. Also, objects have no brains, so such transmutation adds a layer of complexity when compared with Potter being paralyzed.

Originally posted by Bentley
As far as I remember no Harry Potter magician has ever performed such a complex transmutation spell without a wand.

Also, objects have no brains, so such transmutation adds a layer of complexity when compared with Potter being paralyzed.


Harry turned his aunt into a human balloon when he lost control of his emotions. And Voldemort easily operates in that power range at just his base levels.

Sorting Hat. Gryffindor's sword. Horcruxes. Heck, wands in general themselves. In the HPverse, an object doesn't need to have a brain in order to possess some sort of sentience.

All Harry did was inflate her, she was still human...where is the proof that Tommy boy can reverse being turned into an inanimate object?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Harry turned his aunt into a human balloon when he lost control of his emotions. And Voldemort easily operates in that power range at just his base levels.

Sorting Hat. Gryffindor's sword. Horcruxes. Heck, wands in general themselves. In the HPverse, an object doesn't need to have a brain in order to possess some sort of sentience.

This assumes that Jafar will necessarily make him a sentient head of lettuce. And again, this is well off point. Jafar already won the fight if Voldemort becomes anything from an ice cube in the desert to a carrot up some donkey's ass. He's not going to "I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN" and then magically outfight a superior wizard.

So again:

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This assumes that Jafar will necessarily make him a sentient head of lettuce. And again, this is well off point. Jafar already won the fight if Voldemort becomes anything from an ice cube in the desert to a carrot up some donkey's ass. He's not going to "I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN" and then magically outfight a superior wizard.

So again:

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Nope, but it does assume that Voldemort could possibly retain his sentience even in a transfigured state. And all of this is ignoring the fact that Voldemort can 1)cast protective spells to shield from such an onslaught and 2)apparate-dodge the incoming spell at his way.

So basically, you have zero feats of a wizard being able to reverse being turned into an inanimate object?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Nope, but it does assume that Voldemort could possibly retain his sentience even in a transfigured state. And all of this is ignoring the fact that Voldemort can 1)cast protective spells to shield from such an onslaught and 2)apparate-dodge the incoming spell at his way.

Jafar's spells appeared to change reality on a global scale, so where is Voldemort apparating to? The Moon?

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