Tyrant vs. Void vs. Molecule Man

He may do it as Galactus as well 😉

You cannot really compare the damage dealt by Morgana or some random amped Avengers with Molecule Man at his best. He's simply beyond those levels.

Originally posted by Bentley
He may do it as Galactus as well 😉

You cannot really compare the damage dealt by Morgana or some random amped Avengers with Molecule Man at his best. He's simply beyond those levels.

Either way you look at it he can beat MM or survive other less formidable attacks because he can come back when he wants to. He did so against MM so case closed.

sentry had better control over MM's molecules then even MM himself did..hence the reason MM says, "how are u doing this, i control them molecules"

there was no defense cuz he was just overpowered...plan and simple

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I can as you just mentioned attacks having more of an impact than molecular attacks.

Either way you look at it he can beat MM or survive other less formidable attacks because he can come back when he wants to. He did so against MM so case closed.

The issue explained why warping wasn't effective, just using collateral attacks more powerful than those which killed Void should work just fine.

Originally posted by Bentley
The issue explained why warping wasn't effective, just using collateral attacks more powerful than those which killed Void should work just fine.

what makes u assume this??

and r u agreeing sentry overpowered MM?

Originally posted by Bentley
The issue explained why warping wasn't effective, just using collateral attacks more powerful than those which killed Void should work just fine.

Also your logic is severely flawed as you can't do worse than completely destroying someone so what does collateral damage have to do with anything ?

Originally posted by bbrem123
what makes u assume this??

and r u agreeing sentry overpowered MM?

I agree that Void overpowered MM's reality warping on him and proceeded to make him explode, that's what we all saw on panel.

I believe he's inmune to the warp because of two things: Owen mentioned his molecules tasted funny -they must be special which is why Owen cannot control them right-, and second Void said he controlled his own molecules and made a tiny wolf. He opposed the warp using those abilities, pretty high reality warping resisting feat.

Not the end of all the battles.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because Void can come back after being destroyed. We have proof of this we have no proof outside of a suicidal Bob demanding he be killed and not coming back simply because he doesn't want to.

Also your logic is severely flawed as you can't do worse than completely destroying someone so what does collateral damage have to do with anything ?

So Void regenerates from a few herald level attacks and you think he can regenerate against anything? Nice infinity fallacy there mister.

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree that Void overpowered MM's reality warping on him and proceeded to make him explode, that's what we all saw on panel.

I believe he's inmune to the warp because of two things: Owen mentioned his molecules tasted funny -they must be special which is why Owen cannot control them right-, and second Void said he controlled his own molecules and made a tiny wolf. He opposed the warp using those abilities, pretty high reality warping resisting feat.

Not the end of all the battles.

So Void regenerates from a few herald level attacks and you think he can regenerate against anything? Nice infinity fallacy there mister.

He regenerated from Morgana and MM destroying him and the writer confirmed he can come back when he wants to. How many more examples do you need ?

Wolverine can regenerate, so can Void, big deal.

But now that you mention it, when Cap attacked Void he said:

"Keep attacking me, I can regenerate all day long"

Oh, sorry, he said "Aaaaarggh!"

Thor killed Sentry/Void. End of story. Btw, this angel of death thing is a name game. Void's trying to scare people. Last time I saw someone claim that title in comics, was Eclipso, and Spectre. Both of whom have a far better claim to that title by feats, and word of GOD himself, than anything Void ever did.

I certainly don't buy into Stormin' Norman of all people saying he's the Angel of Death.

We don't know WTF he is and that scene in Dark Avengers taking place in Biblical Egypt doesn't confirm anything outside of that something that could/was the Void entity/whatever active at that time. Bendis even said Sentry was a liar and not to take everything he said at face value, iirc.

Hell, it's more likely he's somehow connected with Chaos King with the "void" aspect and all than being a biblical entity.

Question: Why is it that MM's fight against Beyonder is considered cannon when he loses frequently to much weaker opponents, such as the combined forces of a depowered Thing and Man-Thing? Is there some trove of feats that put him at "all-powerful"? because his normal showing, from what I have seen, is nowhere near Beyonder...

Originally posted by inimalist
Question: Why is it that MM's fight against Beyonder is considered cannon when he loses frequently to much weaker opponents, such as the combined forces of a depowered Thing and Man-Thing? Is there some trove of feats that put him at "all-powerful"? because his normal showing, from what I have seen, is nowhere near Beyonder...

For one thing the one who lost to Thing/Man Thing wasn't even the original Molecule Man.

He was a being created by the original Molecule Man in a pocket dimension who had the same powers as that current incarnation of MM.
That being said, not only was this version still dependent on physical contact with the wand to not only use his powers, but to stop himself dying, but this was long, long before the mental blocks were lifted from Molecule Man, and as such the being he created had powers in line with pre mental block MM.

Post mental block MM was more powerful than every abstract combined and the only threat to the Beyonder in existence.

Then there was the cosmic cube retcon which makes Reece while not as uber as he was, still incredibly powerful- it was in this incarnation he fought Beyonder and warped the multiverse.

And he hasn't lost to inferior beings since his mental block was lifted in the 80's, bar the recent Sentry fight.

ah, fair enough, I suppose I was really only familiar with him before all that, thanks

Originally posted by Bentley
Wolverine can regenerate, so can Void, big deal.

But now that you mention it, when Cap attacked Void he said:

"Keep attacking me, I can regenerate all day long"

Oh, sorry, he said "Aaaaarggh!"

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thor killed Sentry/Void. End of story. Btw, this angel of death thing is a name game. Void's trying to scare people. Last time I saw someone claim that title in comics, was Eclipso, and Spectre. Both of whom have a far better claim to that title by feats, and word of GOD himself, than anything Void ever did.

Except comics rule and non-infinite fallacy rules. Nothing points out towards Void having infinite stamina inside comics...

He even said "Aaaargh!"

Originally posted by Bentley
Except comics rule and non-infinite fallacy rules. Nothing points out towards Void having infinite stamina inside comics...

He even said "Aaaargh!"

Owen is just way beyond either of these two.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Experiencing pain does not mean close to defeat. Hulk gets cut does that mean he is close to being defeated. Void can come back from complete destruction whereas MM cannot. Pretty simple.

Even if that's true, which isn't stated by the comic themselves. What about bfr? Void never teleported through time or dimensions, any advanced kind of bfr owns him hard.

Originally posted by Bentley
Even if that's true, which isn't stated by the comic themselves. What about bfr? Void never teleported through time or dimensions, any advanced kind of bfr owns him hard.

We saw him do so in the comic and we saw him flat out pwn MM. In a direct matchup Void pwns him.