Tyrant vs. Void vs. Molecule Man

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can mm himself back from nonexistence so how can he bfr him ?

We saw him do so in the comic and we saw him flat out pwn MM. In a direct matchup Void pwns him.

I brought the bfr point mostly because the last time we discussed it, I thought, well, I thought you don't quite grasp the concept of banning someone from the battlefield. It doesn't mean destroying him, just sending him away, like throwing him so far he can't come back.

Part of me just want it for you to be impossibly stubborn as usual, but please, you understand those things are entirely different, right?

Originally posted by Bentley
I brought the bfr point mostly because the last time we discussed it, I thought, well, I thought you don't quite grasp the concept of banning someone from the battlefield. It doesn't mean destroying him, just sending him away, like throwing him so far he can't come back.

Part of me just want it for you to be impossibly stubborn as usual, but please, you understand those things are entirely different, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tes, but he can reform from nothingness so what does distance have to do with anything.

Exactly 😐

BFR is sending you to an impossible distance, how is reforming going to help him to return from such distance? (hint: it won't)

Originally posted by Bentley
Exactly 😐

BFR is sending you to an impossible distance, how is reforming going to help him to return from such distance? (hint: it won't)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Coming back means you don't exist anywhere. If he can come back from nothingness why can't he just reform where he wants to.

Well, not only because he hasn't done it on panel, but also because destroying someone isn't the same as the person ceasing to exist.

Seriously, are you messing with me on this?

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, not only because he hasn't done it on panel, but also because destroying someone isn't the same as the person ceasing to exist.

Seriously, are you messing with me on this?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Coming back means you don't exist anywhere. If he can come back from nothingness why can't he just reform where he wants to.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Oh that's BS... if that were true Mr. Immortal would have to be able to teleport as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void's powers are different than his are. If this were true wouldn't his body have to appear in the same vicinity of where his body was destroyed.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It has appeared in the same vicinity... And even if it hasn't, it was only after a while, no indication it can move exceptionally fast or teleport.

If he can reality mm he can do so to himself so distance doesn't matter he can appear where he wants to imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I seem to recall the Morrigana death he was completely off the grid but it's been a while.

If he can reality mm he can do so to himself so distance doesn't matter he can appear where he wants to imo.

Originally posted by King Kandy
OK, but, that's definitely not "proof"... Just because you can matter manipulate doesn't mean you have to have infinite, limitless range and influence. And certainly, regen alone wouldn't prove such a thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't reform in the same exact spot and the other example prior to him even understanding his abilties he ended up elsewhere. He's flat out existed as the Sentry and the Void before on the same panel and thrown himself into the sun.

Sentry can make light constructs so it only makes sense he'd be able to do something like that... that's like saying Kyle Raynar is infinitely fast because he created Oblivion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
OK but just because he wasn't in the exact same spot doesn't mean he can move instantaneously FTL... the speed could be anything. Insisting that there are only two modes (100% stationary or infinitely fast) is just ludicrous.

Sentry can make light constructs so it only makes sense he'd be able to do something like that... that's like saying Kyle Raynar is infinitely fast because he created Oblivion.

His powers were never fully explained he's like a spectre type character he can and has done what the plot required of him and just came up with new powers every so often. Agree to disagree.

You know how that is called? The infinity fallacy. Long story short Quanchi you're death wrong, you can believe whatever you want of course, but you lost the debate.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Bentley
You know how that is called? The infinity fallacy. Long story short Quanchi you're death wrong, you can believe whatever you want of course, but you lost the debate.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession Accepted.

Originally posted by Bentley

(inner monologue ----

Quan, he's' done it again).

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see what you are saying I just disagree with what we have seen the Sentry/Void able to do. I don't see the nwer/deadlier Void as being able to be bfr'd. I see his insane resurrecting his dead wife, mm feats, fighting the Sentry and being thrown into the sun and existing in two different spots at the same time and coming back from Morgana's attack on him in a different spot as leaning towards my opinion.

His powers were never fully explained he's like a spectre type character he can and has done what the plot required of him and just came up with new powers every so often. Agree to disagree.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Of course, the real question is if they'd be able to execute a BFR in the first place.