Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which is why we had this gem:So, throwing Mjolnir = bad, but throwing a sword = okay. Lol.
Either way, I've yet to see anything close to them enduring the kind of impact a Mjolnir strike will make with pure adamantium what with the resulting shockwave, much less how either of them endure point blank hammer to the face or body.
Thor would be hard pressed at even landing an attack like that on Gorgon. Gorgon is one of the rare type of peeps that "consistently" use his speed.
Originally posted by ringtones
wtf? cables arm was ripped off his shoulder when he was holding a shield what the hell are you talking about, and hey i can just use forge or anyone with an implanted arm ... hell lets take ironman its his freakin armor doing the job so it doesnt count right? so if i say iron man vs someone in a meele fight that means he should get his ass out of that suit and fight with his underwear? Lol what a joke you are
Scans of Cables' arm being ripped off....
Also, none of those "implanted" weapons can be used outside of the other persons attack range.
Originally posted by Starscream M
you're making the assumption thor would hit them pointblank with Mjolnir...a poor, and unsupported assumption in my opinion. seeing as how thor had trouble even with the much slower wolverine.
And yet, Thor has hit Sentry, Iron Man, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, etc. All people using superior speed than Logan. Do they fight like Logan? No, of course not. But because they're not Logan or Logan enemies nor do they fight like them, it simply "doesn't count". People are demanding scans of Thor fighting like Logan or fighting someone who fights like Logan or someone Logan-centric and it's laughable.
The idea that Thor won't hit them when they get close in for melee is laughable. As is the idea that they'll somehow shrug off his blows. It's selective reading at best and downright lowballing at worse.
How about someone post feats of Omega Red and Gorgon as it pertains to this thread? Can anyone do that?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Scans of Cables' arm being ripped off....Also, none of those "implanted" weapons can be used outside of the other persons attack range.
if you need scans for every feat people note you should get your ass up and read some comics i am not doing the work for your lazy ass find it on your own
so if lets say winter soldier had a longer implanted arm he couldnt use it because it wasnt a meele? and what about iron man i am waiting for an answer his entire body armor is not part of his body so when he is fist fighting its not a meele? i guess you are a kid that took some karate classes and is too restriced to all kind of "rules" and whats fair and whats not fair in combat... then go outside and fight with your dick in your hand thats original body part isnt it?
Originally posted by ringtones
if you need scans for every feat people note you should get your ass up and read some comics i am not doing the work for your lazy ass find it on your ownso if lets say winter soldier had a longer implanted arm he couldnt use it because it wasnt a meele? and what about iron man i am waiting for an answer his entire body armor is not part of his body so when he is fist fighting its not a meele? i guess you are a kid that took some karate classes and is too restriced to all kind of "rules" and whats fair and whats not fair in combat... then go outside and fight with your dick in your hand thats original body part isnt it?
IOW, you can't post any proof.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And yet, Thor has hit Sentry, Iron Man, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, etc. All people using superior speed than Logan. Do they fight like Logan? No, of course not. But because they're not Logan or Logan enemies nor do they fight like them, it simply "doesn't count". People are demanding scans of Thor fighting like Logan or fighting someone who fights like Logan or someone Logan-centric and it's laughable.The idea that Thor won't hit them when they get close in for melee is laughable. As is the idea that they'll somehow shrug off his blows. It's selective reading at best and downright lowballing at worse.
How about someone post feats of Omega Red and Gorgon as it pertains to this thread? Can anyone do that?
go read his respect thread no one is going to do the job for you
gorgon is not only super fast but also can read his opponents mind and know there moves he combines that with his speed and reflex and just owned his opponents before he makes the move he did it to real speedsters you know real speedsters has also super speed of actions not only flying fast
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And yet, Thor has hit Sentry, Iron Man, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, etc. All people using superior speed than Logan. Do they fight like Logan? No, of course not. But because they're not Logan or Logan enemies nor do they fight like them, it simply "doesn't count". People are demanding scans of Thor fighting like Logan or fighting someone who fights like Logan or someone Logan-centric and it's laughable.The idea that Thor won't hit them when they get close in for melee is laughable. As is the idea that they'll somehow shrug off his blows. It's selective reading at best and downright lowballing at worse.
How about someone post feats of Omega Red and Gorgon as it pertains to this thread? Can anyone do that?
Hulks hit all of those characters too without much difficulty. Is Hulk faster than Wolverine?
Gorgon and Omega Red only have a couple hundred appearances between them, go pick up some back issues or download their appearances. If you need someone to make a respect threat for a character in order for you to formulate a valid opinion, then maybe you aren't qualified to post in this thread.
Originally posted by ringtones
go read his respect thread no one is going to do the job for yougorgon is not only super fast but also can read his opponents mind and know there moves he combines that with his speed and reflex and just owned his opponents before he makes the move he did it to real speedsters you know real speedsters has also super speed of actions not only flying fast
"Go read his respect thread" = I don't got any proof on me.
Yeah. Thor's beaten super fast people before.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And yet, Thor has hit Sentry, Iron Man, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, etc. All people using superior speed than Logan. Do they fight like Logan? No, of course not. But because they're not Logan or Logan enemies nor do they fight like them, it simply "doesn't count". People are demanding scans of Thor fighting like Logan or fighting someone who fights like Logan or someone Logan-centric and it's laughable.The idea that Thor won't hit them when they get close in for melee is laughable. As is the idea that they'll somehow shrug off his blows. It's selective reading at best and downright lowballing at worse.
How about someone post feats of Omega Red and Gorgon as it pertains to this thread? Can anyone do that?
I don't get your post. Everyone you've named, Hulk has also fought and hit them but a couple of days ago me and you had a debate on how fast Hulk is and if he has super speed.
Don't even bring Gladiator into this because when he did use super speed against Thor, he dropped him. The rest... you will not find a single scan of them using speed against him and its debatable if Surfer even have any type of combat speed outside of flight.
Wolverine has already blitzed Ironman more that once and actually had him dead to rights during the infinite gauntlet saga.
Hulk has hit Sentry but yet Hulk have a hard time tagging Logan.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hulks hit all of those characters too without much difficulty. Is Hulk faster than Wolverine?Gorgon and Omega Red only have a couple hundred appearances between them, go pick up some back issues or download their appearances. If you need someone to make a respect threat for a character in order for you to formulate a valid opinion, then maybe you aren't qualified to post in this thread.
Who gives a flying shit about Wolverine? - well, besides the obvious answer.
They have respect threads here. Post their feats, their own feats as they pertain to themselves. Hell provide specific examples of what they themselves have done. Whether they win or lose shouldn't hinge on Logan himself lol. And nice try about being "qualified to post". The irony consumes me.
i got feat of a speedster using his speed ability and gorgon cutting her wrists in the middle of her action which means gorgon overcame her super speed and show greater fighting speed than a speedster not you show me thor doing anything close to that as far as speed fighting and no punching someone who just trade blows with him wont do the job
Originally posted by ringtones
i can also play that game... show me thor outfighting speedsters in combat lets go
Scans have been posted, go back a few pages and read them.
The issue here is that they're "not good enough" or need to meet specific criteria as compared to - yeah, you guessed it - Wolverine.
Based on what he's done in the span of time it had taken him to do, he can operate at super speed. Unless you want to dismiss all of his feats shown as being "wrong" or "not counting".
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you can't prove your claim so you want me to disprove it.I don't think so, I'll just laugh at you for making claims that you can't back up.
so basically you bcked up... finally you realized, the subject here is that even if a character has a body part implanted into him its still a part of his body it becomes a part of his body therefor its a legit meele fight, and also you didnt answer me about ironman i am waiting for your answer dont dodge me lets go
Originally posted by ringtones
i got feat of a speedster using his speed ability and gorgon cutting her wrists in the middle of her action which means gorgon overcame her super speed and show greater fighting speed than a speedster not you show me thor doing anything close to that as far as speed fighting and no punching someone who just trade blows with him wont do the job
Show me.
What, show you Thor fighting on your terms which you've somehow decided are the only terms worth noting in this fight? Lol.